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Old 03-23-2011, 04:43 PM
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For those of you that DE without a proper roll bar.....this will make you think

I do not know the circumstances, or the driver just saw it on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...item1e6254350f

The speeds a GT3 enables you to travel at during a DE warrants proper saftey equipment.

I am considering a front cage in the RS
Old 03-23-2011, 04:54 PM
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Dam, that must have been some ride!!!!!!!
Old 03-23-2011, 04:58 PM
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As much as you hate to see these posts they sure are a good reality check of what can end up happening out there. Thanks for the friendly reminder!
Old 03-23-2011, 05:00 PM
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Rollbar, Harnesses & HANS. Every time.

Must have been quite a ride for sure.
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Damn.
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I experienced no impact, only a crumpling momentum. No air bags deployed.
How's that possible?
Scary stuff.
Old 03-23-2011, 05:06 PM
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what suspension is that? - is it stock?
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2003 Porsche 911 GT2
It's called the Widow maker for a reason.
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Originally Posted by Richie18
It's called the Widow maker for a reason.
I believe the 997 has a simular roof support structure

In the past I have seen posts about the strenghth of the bodies in these cars............roll bars not necessary for DE.............cages that mount to the seat belt mounts in lieu of floor weleded plates are ok. I do not agree

I am not willing to take the risk......there is no redo
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Randy, sadly I have seen quite a few rolled GT3s with the Tequipment roll bar. It did its job. Do you think Porsche would risk the liability? I agree though, roll bar, harness and hans for me too.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Randy, sadly I have seen quite a few rolled GT3s with the Tequipment roll bar. It did its job. Do you think Porsche would risk the liability? I agree though, roll bar, harness and hans for me too.
you know better than me, I was raised on a dirt track...not porsche. Just overconservative

I see way too many people at DE's with no rollpver protection on GT3's.....just bling wheels and a fancy loud exhaust. That money shoudl have been spent on proper protection

For DE roll over protection is mandatory in my book....as well as proper seats and harness
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Randy, since you got the clubsport rear bar for your RS, you can easily get the front section for it.. that would be quite a stout setup (if it is good enough for the 24 hours of N-ring...).. get the dual door bar setup, though.. !!
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That car didn't even have a roll bar. Got mine going in as I type right now
Old 03-23-2011, 05:56 PM
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I consider this an educational post, so I 'll play.

Freak accident! I 've seen a couple of badly rolled 996's and none of them was in such a bad shape..
But I guess if the timing is "right" it can happen. I hope the driver got out unharmed somehow..

Early 911s were considerably more dangerous as the pillars were too thin and soft.
I have lost a friend in a 70s 911 from a roll over that even the cheapest of today's cars would have survived.

In any case I believe that a full roll cage should be standard in any sport car even today.
An integrated one properly padded and as far away from the passengers heads as possible would be ideal.

We are lucky that the GT cars (little more tricky for the US/Canada ones) have a factory solution for a proper full cage.

It is and will always be the first thing I would add together with the rear toe links..
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Hmm, I was so glad I finally could get in and out of my daily driver after having a full cage daily driver car for 4 years...
I'll start my diet tomorrow.


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