911dev

It happened on the street to my friend's 996 x50 turbo with roughly 20k on the odo. My grandmother used to drive faster so it was not due to hard use. Car was never tracked. Low speed heading home, saw smoke, end of story.

FFaust

+ 1000

... or ban

Yoops Racing

Seems that there are several ways to fix this including welding the fitting. I spoke to another local pcar race shop here and they have been getting lots of calls to fix this permanently. They weld the fitting.

sux that Porsche is unreceptive to fixing this right w/o more glue on their dime.

TRAKCAR

Exactly, come clean!!
At least become a member, or better yet a sponsor..

sharkster

As Dan was saying on the other thread welding is another way to do it but a bigger modification with more complexity and potential problems in the fix itself. Prior to the machined fittings being sold on Ebay ($200 as posted in these threads) we believed trying to weld the existing tubes to the cast piece was less than ideal. This kit might be a better solution; we have ordered one and do plan to see how well it works on a future build. It looks like it is not a complete kit though from the auction descriptions, we will determine this once we have seen and tested it.

To weld this will probably add 5-6 hours of labor (maybe more) to further disassemble / clean everything and weld, plus the ~$200 in parts etc. There is a greater risk involved in ruining the cast pieces and there's always the possibility the weld will crack later too.

911SLOW

Happened to me on the street, but the Feds have no jurisdiction here : )

911SLOW

Alex the 200 price for these parts is a bit expensive don't you think? Can't you make your own kit for a lot less and make it GT3 specific too?

John

John D II

I did the weld on my TT after the second failure in a years time. The first fitting lasted from new in "02 until 2008. I purchased a new factory piece, which failed in less than 1 year. It was still under warranty. We welded the two fittings on the oil cooler (inlet and outlet) and I do not think that piece will ever fail again.

GTEE3

I sent a letter to von Platen @ PCNA today, asking him to get involved, and do the right thing.
I will post if I hear back.

FFaust

John, is that the oil cooler at the back on top of the engine? I got something going on in that area but I can't see what without a lot of digging.

Also, the new factory piece you bought, was it just the fitting or the actual manifold?

P.J.S.

I would be comfortable with the eBay kit and pricing if I knew for sure it was complete... at this point I am assuming it is not until dgreen or alex prove otherwise...

John D II

Yes, it is the oil cooler and it takes a lot of digging to get to it. You can remove the alternator and get a better look. If the failure is on the drivers side you can re-epoxy it in the car. If it's on the passenger side, it's a lot more difficult. We ended up removing the motor to get to it and replace it. Unfortunately, the new replacement part lasted less than a year.

I had to buy the complete manifold, but in retrospect, there is no need to, you can just re-epoxy or weld the original piece.

FFaust

Thanks a bunch John, great info.

Mine's dripping on the driver's side, but I would much rather drop the engine and fix all at once... the proper way and be done with it.

So from your reply, there are two of these on this one manifold?

John D II

Yes, inlet and outlet. The picture shows the piece with one side missing - that's the one that popped out and remained on the hose...

FFaust

Duh, should have thought about that, LOL.

Thanks, and now that you've spelled it out, it's obvious on the pic