Exhaust for 997.1 GT3RS- What to do?
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Carrera GT - maybe there is a misunderstanding. I have the Sharkwerks bypass installed, use the solenoid bypass, and also use the Awe Tuning muffler tips. Haven't had any issues with sound at Laguna the last six days running there.
I didn't buy the Awe Tuning muffler tips recently, but rather a few years ago when we were in disbelief that an unmodified 997 GT3 Porsche could not meet sound at Laguna. By themselves, they do not provide a solution to the sound limitation. I use them now simply because I have them and its easy to take them on and off. I install them so that they are angled to the left and down.
I would caution anybody against just "lifting" or using a particular line through turn 5 to beat the sound cops at Laguna. What happens if you do that is you create a situation where cars that are going relatively slow (because they lifted) are merging with cars that are WOT up the hill from turn 5 into turn 6, which ruins everyone's lap. Its not in anyone's best interest to have that situation occur lap after lap.
I didn't buy the Awe Tuning muffler tips recently, but rather a few years ago when we were in disbelief that an unmodified 997 GT3 Porsche could not meet sound at Laguna. By themselves, they do not provide a solution to the sound limitation. I use them now simply because I have them and its easy to take them on and off. I install them so that they are angled to the left and down.
I would caution anybody against just "lifting" or using a particular line through turn 5 to beat the sound cops at Laguna. What happens if you do that is you create a situation where cars that are going relatively slow (because they lifted) are merging with cars that are WOT up the hill from turn 5 into turn 6, which ruins everyone's lap. Its not in anyone's best interest to have that situation occur lap after lap.
I had the same dismay to find the 997.1 GT3 was in the sound penalty box and struggling to pace the 996 GT3 which could run wide open (perhaps not under cloud reflections) ... Laguna sound is a travesty of a sham wrapped in a mockery of ...
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OEM 996gt3 exhaust can run wot anytime any weather condition and it will pass even 90db at LS. i did it since 2004, never once got flagged.
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I'm not totally clear on this.
If the sport button is off and I go over 4k, it gets really loud. Assuming the valve opens automatically regardless of the sport button selection.
With the sport button on, even at idle, it is louder than with the sport button off. It was my understanding that the sport button opens the valve, increasing the volume regardless of rpm.
So what does unplugging the valves do exactly?
If the sport button is off and I go over 4k, it gets really loud. Assuming the valve opens automatically regardless of the sport button selection.
With the sport button on, even at idle, it is louder than with the sport button off. It was my understanding that the sport button opens the valve, increasing the volume regardless of rpm.
So what does unplugging the valves do exactly?
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Beware the sharkwerks tips though. As much as I love Alex's work with their bypass and engine wizardry, my experience with two different sets have been horrible (one stainless, another Ti blue-flamed). The stainless tips rusted completely within 3 months (not just spots but serious, junkyard-heap rust) and the spendier Ti ones went from the original Ti-blue to a discolored, golden-silvery tone again within 3 months.
That won't stop me from buying their many other fabulous products though. Tips just aren't their forte, I've learned.
That won't stop me from buying their many other fabulous products though. Tips just aren't their forte, I've learned.
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Beware the sharkwerks tips though. As much as I love Alex's work with their bypass and engine wizardry, my experience with two different sets have been horrible (one stainless, another Ti blue-flamed). The stainless tips rusted completely within 3 months (not just spots but serious, junkyard-heap rust) and the spendier Ti ones went from the original Ti-blue to a discolored, golden-silvery tone again within 3 months.
That won't stop me from buying their many other fabulous products though. Tips just aren't their forte, I've learned.
That won't stop me from buying their many other fabulous products though. Tips just aren't their forte, I've learned.
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My friend Mooty forgot I had my solenoid wired to hold flaps closed all the time in order to pass sound with Akrapovic Evolution full system. Otherwise 107 sweet, meatball worthy, db's.
Having played the moronic LS exhaust game and dodged (and sometimes hit) the damn rigged up exhaust pieces as they fell off on the track, I am swearing off sound limit days. Running unlimited sound there, at what ever price for the respective event is worth it.
Having played the moronic LS exhaust game and dodged (and sometimes hit) the damn rigged up exhaust pieces as they fell off on the track, I am swearing off sound limit days. Running unlimited sound there, at what ever price for the respective event is worth it.
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Anyone have experience with the GMG titanium bypass as the megaphone design looks interesting? I am curious on the pricing as well. Thanks for all the input!
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911S4: "Anyone have experience with the GMG titanium bypass as the megaphone design looks interesting? I am curious on the pricing as well. Thanks for all the input!"
+1 again on the Sharkwerks bypass. No problems with the tips & use the simple solenoid bypass (I think I'll side with 'lawjdc" and also get the AWE downturn tips just in case. Sure hate to be w/o an appropriate band-aid.
+1 again on the Sharkwerks bypass. No problems with the tips & use the simple solenoid bypass (I think I'll side with 'lawjdc" and also get the AWE downturn tips just in case. Sure hate to be w/o an appropriate band-aid.
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Thanks for the kind words CRex and glad you like the exhaust On the tips as Dan had mentioned I think unfortunately for the black ones you got one of the sets back from when we were having them made from _mild_ by RSS which hasn't been the case for some time. I'll send you some proper SS ones in black and those never have any issues. On the Ti tips it's just a nature of how titanium reacts with heat. They will/do always change color with heat... even the factory ones will. Any exhaust from Ti on other cars will do the same. I know we mention it on the site/product page but I'll make it clearer for sure
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My friend Mooty forgot I had my solenoid wired to hold flaps closed all the time in order to pass sound with Akrapovic Evolution full system. Otherwise 107 sweet, meatball worthy, db's.
Having played the moronic LS exhaust game and dodged (and sometimes hit) the damn rigged up exhaust pieces as they fell off on the track, I am swearing off sound limit days. Running unlimited sound there, at what ever price for the respective event is worth it.
Having played the moronic LS exhaust game and dodged (and sometimes hit) the damn rigged up exhaust pieces as they fell off on the track, I am swearing off sound limit days. Running unlimited sound there, at what ever price for the respective event is worth it.
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and hod.
i run stock exhaust at LS with 6
i have a mile 6 exhaust at 95 or so db
i have a wild one at 110db. they kicked me out from sears point.
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i love sharky bypass. i just haven't had time to stop by the shop to get alex and crew to put it one.
hum.... alex, maybe you come over for brunch and we make dan work in the garage ;-)
hum.... alex, maybe you come over for brunch and we make dan work in the garage ;-)