Re-Use of Caliper Bolt?
#1
Race Director
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Re-Use of Caliper Bolt?
I just had my calipers off the car to replace the rubber dust shields and rotors. The shop re-used the caliper bolts. I've heard that these are a 1 time use bolt...anyone shed some light on this for me?
Car is a 09 Carrera S. thanks!
Car is a 09 Carrera S. thanks!
#2
Three Wheelin'
The thought behind replacing the bolts is: You torque them and place the bolt into a FULL Tension condition by stretching them to the required Torque value. Also, they are intended to have a locking type coating applied from the factory.
Few people really ever replace them unless they become damaged... Just apply a little thread locker on them and re-torque as specified.
Now I am sure this will stir up a TON of controversy.
Few people really ever replace them unless they become damaged... Just apply a little thread locker on them and re-torque as specified.
Now I am sure this will stir up a TON of controversy.
#3
Yes, I understand that it is best to replace them every time since they stretch.
I have skip that step a few times already and they have work just fine, but now that you mentioned I'll order a set to replace them on the next pads change.
I have skip that step a few times already and they have work just fine, but now that you mentioned I'll order a set to replace them on the next pads change.
#5
These are not torque to yield bolts. They may be reused but be careful to clean the threads both on the bolt and inside the carrier. I use my Sprayaway glass cleaner and a shop towel to clean both sets of threads and install dry and clean. Also very important to use a torque wrench when tightening, overtorque is what strips those aluminum carrier threads.
On/off about 10 times on my RS with no problem so far.
On/off about 10 times on my RS with no problem so far.
#6
Three Wheelin'
Keep in mind that this referenced thread is really looking at the failure rate from Fatigue (repeated force of placing a bolt into torque on the threads) & thermal heat exposure. What really failed in these situations were the tapped holes threads. A insert will increase the shear strength of the existing hole.
While these bolts are not "True Yield" bolts (when you place enough toque to the point of the materials yield point~before breaking). You are placing torque on them which creates a long term fatigue situation. Still, not enough that warrants replacement of the bolts.
While these bolts are not "True Yield" bolts (when you place enough toque to the point of the materials yield point~before breaking). You are placing torque on them which creates a long term fatigue situation. Still, not enough that warrants replacement of the bolts.
#7
There's not a shop I know that replaces them everytime. I'd give it few changes until it starts to keep you up at night. More importantly, I would NOT use a thread lock on these. I think you'd do some damage to the aluminum uprights if so. As mentioned, make sure threads are clean when replacing. Uprights get stripped all the time.
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#8
Three Wheelin'
The Thread locker WILL NOT damage the threaded holes! I did not say PUT THREAD LOCKER 272 (which takes 500 deg F to get off). Damage to the uprights occurs from OVER torque conditions of the Caliper bolts and placing the cast aluminum thread features into shear!
Last edited by CWhaley; 11-02-2010 at 10:44 PM. Reason: more info update temp