These forums can be depressing!
10-23-2010, 02:57 AM
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There is always some good info here, especially when it comes to upgrades. We got a good deal on the telemetry/video systems thanks to the hard work of a member here on Rennlist.
But I do have 2 words for you:
Analysis Paralysis
I agree with some of the previous notes, just drive the car and enjoy it. If something breaks get it fixed. We all have new cars that probably are still under warranty so lets just have fun.
I bet if you went to the corvette or mustang forums there would be twice as much stuff about fix this or fix that.
Relax
But I do have 2 words for you:
Analysis Paralysis
I agree with some of the previous notes, just drive the car and enjoy it. If something breaks get it fixed. We all have new cars that probably are still under warranty so lets just have fun.
I bet if you went to the corvette or mustang forums there would be twice as much stuff about fix this or fix that.
Relax
Enjoy those cars and be thankful you don't have to encounter Chevy service. 
10-23-2010, 08:32 PM
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Exactly... From my own experience there's no other brand of car (at that price) that you can take "as is" to the track, drive them hard, and have a lot of fun with reliability and consistency. Modern, portly M bimmers are a disgrace to the heritage (for track work).
Nothing has failed at the track on any of the street P-Cars I've had (Racing is another story, but its normal given the exponential stress)
Nothing has failed at the track on any of the street P-Cars I've had (Racing is another story, but its normal given the exponential stress)
10-23-2010, 08:33 PM
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10-23-2010, 08:37 PM
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10-23-2010, 08:39 PM
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new pepper is very nice. but i am surprised that it didn't have any provision or even a jump seat for 3rd row.
10-24-2010, 12:20 AM
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thats why i dd a benz and so does my wife
I had bought new pre-launch edition '00 X5 4.4 Sport. In 3 years and 40K miles maybe 3 months all was OK. That was my last BMW. Engine cooked, many electrical problem, many rubber bushing, boots etc tearing.
It left my wife stranded 3x. She refused to drive it the last few months after it stalled on a freeway exit and she could not keep it in the corner without powersteering and it sat in driveway while lease ran out..
After that R350, S430 and now E320CDI and CL 65.. No real problems. Looking to add R320CDI or ML 320CDI.
10-24-2010, 01:00 AM
#41
Exactly... From my own experience there's no other brand of car (at that price) that you can take "as is" to the track, drive them hard, and have a lot of fun with reliability and consistency. Modern, portly M bimmers are a disgrace to the heritage (for track work).
Nothing has failed at the track on any of the street P-Cars I've had (Racing is another story, but its normal given the exponential stress)
Nothing has failed at the track on any of the street P-Cars I've had (Racing is another story, but its normal given the exponential stress)
In all, nothing compares to a Porsche in regards to purity/thrill/capability per RELIABILITY. Almost all of my mileage on my GT2 is track miles, suffice to say, the thing is a beast and keeps running HARDER as the miles pour on.. Consumables and little nags along the way were the only replacements (such as the oil sending unit which recently went)... All minor though and common , I am thoroughly spoiled by these GT car's and leave underwhelmed after a test drive in most other car's !
See above, yea not the greatest.. Surprised to hear that about the other car's in the lineup (X5) but I guess it shouldn't be? Don't know what they are doing wrong, but maybe BMW should reevaluate their manufacturing priorities and quality control.
10-24-2010, 12:58 PM
#42
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Let me advice you to go by your own experience (drive it / track it hard until something really fails) and real relevant data from trust worthy sources. There's a lot of BS that gets posted and several others jump immediately on the bandwagon and the casual reader might get the impression that all this cars are a POS.
Even for the famous LSD wear, most users that complain about this do it based solely on static tests but not real track "misbehavior" as 99% of those drivers don't really push the car to the point that LSD locks and you lay down 2 (instead of 1) black lines on exit. Also, most still leave the TC/PSM on, which still doesn't allow the benefit of the LSD as the rear tires are braked by the nannies before significant slip happens.
Dont read and believe, go drive...
Even for the famous LSD wear, most users that complain about this do it based solely on static tests but not real track "misbehavior" as 99% of those drivers don't really push the car to the point that LSD locks and you lay down 2 (instead of 1) black lines on exit. Also, most still leave the TC/PSM on, which still doesn't allow the benefit of the LSD as the rear tires are braked by the nannies before significant slip happens.
Dont read and believe, go drive...
10-25-2010, 08:52 PM
#43
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I just spent the entire day at Eagles Canyon Raceway (NW of Dallas). My friend, Christian, organizes a couple of track days and we all split the cost equally among the drivers. There were only 15 cars, and I drove 75 laps (each lap is 2.5 miles), with very little traffic. Most of the laps were clean laps, unimpeded by traffic.
I drove the car to the track, did 75 laps on the track, and drove it back home. Almost every car out there had issues, except for...............
another GT3.
I drove the car to the track, did 75 laps on the track, and drove it back home. Almost every car out there had issues, except for...............
another GT3.