limey940

Whenever Ive seen people discuss the various pros and cons of these two cars generally what is said is that the Turbo is a great GT type car, very fast, comfortable etc compared to the GT RS which is more track focused hardcore etc.
On TG last night the 997 turbo was driven by the Stig and recorded a time that was slightly faster than the RS. Both were driven by the same person, on the same track, in similar conditions. I suspect the Turbo may have shaved a couple of hundreths of it it had been PDK equipped.
So, long story short, what is the attraction of the RS over the Turbo if lap times are essentailly the same but you have the comfort factor in a turbo?

thanks

mooty

you cannot debate TT vs RS.
it's not about how fast one is, or how much hp, .....
it's that they feel different.
you have to actually drive the two cars. you will like one over the other then that's the one you get.

axhoaxho

You are looking for the comfort factor, while the GT3RS shines is the excitement factor. If comfort is your choice, I am aftraid that the GT3/GT3RS is not for you.

You really need to drive one, hard, on the track to understand. The thrill and driver-involvement on the GT3/G3RS are like no others.

Regards,

va122

The turbo is much heavier, makes a huge difference in handling.

russo

Easier to drift the RS, spells more fun.

zellamsee

I saw the episode too. Unclear to me which GT3RS was tested -- I don't recall ever seeing the Stig lapping in a 997 GT3RS (Gen I or II), so perhaps the time recorded was in a 996 GT3RS? I would think that a 997.2 GT3RS would be faster around most tracks than a Turbo.

va122

I just saw the episode, wasn't it the convertible?

911SLOW

The haven't tested the 9972RS yet next season will do, the turbo convertible passed the 996gt3rs.. not bad


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NTY

Turbo may post a better lap time in a hot lap or time attack but their heavier weight will catch up with them as the number of lap increases, similar to a Nissan GTR. Brakes and tyres will heat up faster and lead to fading and losing of traction.

malmasri

I own both.....if I had to choose only one it would be the RS II

axhoaxho

Good point.

limey940

Thanks a lot guys, makes sense
cheers

pissedpuppy

god bless ya, you lucky dog!!

laelops

check out issue #63 of winding road, has Turbo vs. GT3

Nizer

Clarkson doesn't like 911's. Every time he gets in one he has an amateur off.