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Old 08-02-2010, 01:37 AM
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I have the Damptronics on my 997.1 GT3 and have been tracking it and street driving it for about a year or two now. I went to the system because I thought the front springs were just way too soft on the track and switching the shocks to hard didn't really fix the problem. But I didn't want to disable the car for the street and I didn't want to start with a lot of adjustments - I had that on my Elise and never did figure it out. The increase in stiffness is not huge - I think the fronts went from 225 to 350 or so and the rears from the 500s to the 600s. The difference on the track was significant but I am now thinking I need to go stiffer. Springs are cheap but I think I will have to forget about the switchable PASM because I have no idea how the PASM map could be reflashed to conform to the new pieces and I think, otherwise, it won't work. Like all compromises on these cars, it seems like everything I do tends to make the car better for the track and less streetable. Bottom line, for an 88% track car, go with the Motons or equivalent and pay some one good to help you set up the car.
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Originally Posted by Terry L
Bottom line, for an 88% track car, go with the Motons or equivalent and pay some one good to help you set up the car.
agreed.
i no longer drive my track car on street period.
Old 08-02-2010, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry L
I have the Damptronics on my 997.1 GT3 and have been tracking it and street driving it for about a year or two now. I went to the system because I thought the front springs were just way too soft on the track and switching the shocks to hard didn't really fix the problem. But I didn't want to disable the car for the street and I didn't want to start with a lot of adjustments - I had that on my Elise and never did figure it out. The increase in stiffness is not huge - I think the fronts went from 225 to 350 or so and the rears from the 500s to the 600s. The difference on the track was significant but I am now thinking I need to go stiffer. Springs are cheap but I think I will have to forget about the switchable PASM because I have no idea how the PASM map could be reflashed to conform to the new pieces and I think, otherwise, it won't work. Like all compromises on these cars, it seems like everything I do tends to make the car better for the track and less streetable. Bottom line, for an 88% track car, go with the Motons or equivalent and pay some one good to help you set up the car.
I am right with you... I know it will be incrementally better and initially thought the plug and play nature of them damptronics was appealing... and now I have Rad (NJGT) saying I can order them with stiffer springs and valved properly to work with PASM which is not something that I knew was possible (If I am understanding him correctly).... hmmm....

Originally Posted by mooty
agreed.
i no longer drive my track car on street period.
I hope to be in your position someday
Old 08-02-2010, 12:24 PM
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forgot to add... take a look at this...

I already have the GMG sway bars and adjustable toe links... but interesting that this pakage exists

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...n-upgrade.html
Old 08-02-2010, 12:39 PM
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TPC also offers the full-tilt boogie Bilstein PASM setup:

http://www.tpcracing.com/products/TP...nic-Coilovers/

To NJ-GT's comment about the full range of Bilsteins:

http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/downloads/BILSTEIN.pdf
Old 08-02-2010, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
TPC also offers the full-tilt boogie Bilstein PASM setup:

http://www.tpcracing.com/products/TP...nic-Coilovers/
anyone on RL running this?
Old 08-02-2010, 02:41 PM
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What about this clubsport suspension from Cargraphic? nonadjustable, but different than the B16s.

http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/dow...tfahrwerke.pdf
Old 08-02-2010, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PJS996GT3
anyone on RL running this?


sounds great. but how much better are they really?
Old 08-02-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon70
What about this clubsport suspension from Cargraphic? nonadjustable, but different than the B16s.

http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/dow...tfahrwerke.pdf



http://www.cargraphic.de/sources/downloads/BILSTEIN.pdf
Old 08-02-2010, 05:08 PM
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PJ: If you go to Gregg - he will supply you with a book of settings for the Pacific Northwest tracks under wet, dry and different tire set up. With your focus and speed, I would think JRZ or Moton is what you need. Take the time and do it right and only once. :-)
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Originally Posted by roberga
PJ: If you go to Gregg - he will supply you with a book of settings for the Pacific Northwest tracks under wet, dry and different tire set up. With your focus and speed, I would think JRZ or Moton is what you need. Take the time and do it right and only once. :-)

very sound advice... I will likely head that direction when my money catches up with me :-)
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Originally Posted by PJS996GT3
very sound advice... I will likely head that direction when my money catches up with me :-)
see, what did i tell ya....
roberga and i went to same school and majored in helping others spread THEIR wealth.
Old 08-02-2010, 08:12 PM
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like i need the help in spending money on this car :-)
Old 08-02-2010, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PJS996GT3
like i need the help in spending money on this car :-)
well, you did learn from the BEST.
Old 08-02-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PJS996GT3
anyone on RL running this?
There are a few Turbo guys on 6speed... xseal and e55amg are 2 that come to mind.

we lean more towards modifying the suspension that is on the gt3 rather than change the dampers to something that is comparable.

you can also read this article...

http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...s/the-700-club

not apples/apples but you get the idea.


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