Manthey KW V3 Suspension
05-20-2010, 06:12 PM
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Manthey KW V3 Suspension
Im planning to have a Euro trip and pass by Manthey to install there suspension setup for my 7GT2.
Anyone has experiance on there KW V3 suspension setups?
Is it better than the Bliestein damptronics?
Anyone has experiance on there KW V3 suspension setups?
Is it better than the Bliestein damptronics?
05-20-2010, 06:46 PM
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Three Wheelin'
You can not compare the two! The KW vs. Bilstein DA non PASM would be on the same playing field!
My Bilstein DA used on the Cargraphic Tuner Gt3 & TT are that good!
Bilstein engineers using Motec collected motion data to make this valving!
Compared to my past Motons DA they were easy to get set-up!
All I can say is you would not be disapointed with them!
My Bilstein DA used on the Cargraphic Tuner Gt3 & TT are that good!
Bilstein engineers using Motec collected motion data to make this valving!
Compared to my past Motons DA they were easy to get set-up!
All I can say is you would not be disapointed with them!
05-20-2010, 07:03 PM
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You can not compare the two! The KW vs. Bilstein DA non PASM would be on the same playing field!
My Bilstein DA used on the Cargraphic Tuner Gt3 & TT are that good!
Bilstein engineers using Motec collected motion data to make this valving!
Compared to my past Motons DA they were easy to get set-up!
All I can say is you would not be disapointed with them!
My Bilstein DA used on the Cargraphic Tuner Gt3 & TT are that good!
Bilstein engineers using Motec collected motion data to make this valving!
Compared to my past Motons DA they were easy to get set-up!
All I can say is you would not be disapointed with them!
Thanks George , Im leaning towards Mantheys setup because i will have them set it up in here workshop since there is no shop local to me i can trust.
05-21-2010, 03:31 PM
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Please keep us updated. My next mod is definitely suspension but I just don't think I have the patience and/or talent to deal with either Moton or one of the other 2,3 or 4 way adjustables. I would love a perfect PASM compatible system that was tuned on the ring since my hometrack is Sebring, and probably just as bumpy if not worse then the ring. Don't need a system that runs great on an F1 track since we never run on such a smooth track
05-21-2010, 03:57 PM
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Please keep us updated. My next mod is definitely suspension but I just don't think I have the patience and/or talent to deal with either Moton or one of the other 2,3 or 4 way adjustables. I would love a perfect PASM compatible system that was tuned on the ring since my hometrack is Sebring, and probably just as bumpy if not worse then the ring. Don't need a system that runs great on an F1 track since we never run on such a smooth track
08-10-2010, 10:55 PM
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Manthey update ,
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
The camber settings are as following
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
The camber settings are as following
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..
Last edited by TTurbine; 08-14-2010 at 10:09 PM. Reason: Wrong information
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08-10-2010, 11:19 PM
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Three Wheelin'
I am happy to hear that it worked out for you!
When you say stiffer do you mean the spring rate and not the shock valving?
I have about the same camber on my car...a bit more on the rear.
When you say stiffer do you mean the spring rate and not the shock valving?
I have about the same camber on my car...a bit more on the rear.
08-11-2010, 08:30 PM
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Manthey update ,
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
One thing that i was surprised about the setup is that the front had more camber than the rear , which is the opposite of what most rennlisters are running ,
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
One thing that i was surprised about the setup is that the front had more camber than the rear , which is the opposite of what most rennlisters are running ,
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..
Do you know what compression & rebound settings Manthey put you on?
Track impressions to follow after this weekend...
08-11-2010, 10:20 PM
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George , I cant really explain honestly , I had the Hockenheim kit installed which has stiffer springs than the Nurburgring kit , really not sure about the valving but they did not recomend this kit for regular Nurburgring use.
I will send an email to there head engineer , regarding more details on Valving/ Spring rates etc..
08-11-2010, 10:26 PM
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+1... Never thought I'd call the OEM suspension "unsettled", but that was the first thing that came to mind after my V3s went on this week and I drove over the usual bumps on my way home. Part of it may be psychology--I was expecting this bone crusher of a suspension and it turned out to be firm yet very composed, at least in the first 200 street miles... then again we didn't put these things on for street driving did we...
Do you know what compression & rebound settings Manthey put you on?
Track impressions to follow after this weekend...
Do you know what compression & rebound settings Manthey put you on?
Track impressions to follow after this weekend...
I have the setup sheet with me but its in German , and i will scan them once i have a chance since im still hitting the Nurburgring for a few days before ending my vacation
08-13-2010, 07:17 PM
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+1... Never thought I'd call the OEM suspension "unsettled", but that was the first thing that came to mind after my V3s went on this week and I drove over the usual bumps on my way home. Part of it may be psychology--I was expecting this bone crusher of a suspension and it turned out to be firm yet very composed, at least in the first 200 street miles... then again we didn't put these things on for street driving did we...
Do you know what compression & rebound settings Manthey put you on?
Track impressions to follow after this weekend...
Do you know what compression & rebound settings Manthey put you on?
Track impressions to follow after this weekend...
Here are the settings,
Damper Settings Front: Bump 1,50, Rebound 0,50; Rear: Bump 0,75, Rebound 1,00 (turns open)
08-13-2010, 08:10 PM
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Since these setting are specific to the manthey spec KWs probably they mean nothing to V3 users.
Maybe you could post the other settings height camber toe and bars, if you have them.
Thanks
John
Maybe you could post the other settings height camber toe and bars, if you have them.
Thanks
John
08-14-2010, 11:09 AM
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you're supposed to have more camber in the front.
Manthey update ,
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
One thing that i was surprised about the setup is that the front had more camber than the rear , which is the opposite of what most rennlisters are running ,
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..
Had the Manthey KW's installed today... tested in the Nurburgring...
First impression the car has more direct feel very forgiving , and there is zero under steer
The ride is not that harsh its like sport mode but not so nervous and at the same time the chassis is much stiffer..
I choose the Hockenheim setup which is a little bit stiffer than the Nurburgring setup
The car was very stable and settled in the bumpy areas around the ring , at one point i was accelerating full throttle out of a corner in 4th gear , and it hit a bump , it was so stable and did not upset the cars balance and rear traction.. much more confidence than the stock shocks..
One thing that i was surprised about the setup is that the front had more camber than the rear , which is the opposite of what most rennlisters are running ,
-3 camber front , -2.3 rear ,
I beleive this is mainly done to eliminate the safe under steer that Porsche fixed these cars in order for them to be more forgiving for novice drivers..
At first i was not 100% convinced, but after one lap things started to change..
Stay tuned for more..