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I'm definitely aware of the range differences between GT3 and Turbo/GT2 as I own both, but I'm still wildly 'impressed' by the DME on the GT2 in question. My own GT3 RS has 0 over revs (at the point I bought it anyway, probably still the case) and my own GT2 has over revs through Range 4, which I consider pretty normal for any cars that were really driven and exercised well. I get nervous of Range 5 and Range 6 over revs on either platform though, but it seems likely that this GT2 in question had a raised rev limiter via tuning for how many over revs it has accumulated. I've never seen one quite so striking as that.
All happened over 150 hours ago, or >5k miles ago if you use the average miles/hours. I’d see what maintenance has happened in past 5k miles to see if anything came up.
Iirc, the CPO expired in April. Was very, very close to buying this car, but couldn’t get myself to do it. I can’t buy a car that I’m scared to push (previous cars engine blew and has made me paranoid). Very pretty car, just too many red flags for me.
I'm definitely aware of the range differences between GT3 and Turbo/GT2 as I own both.....
Hey Steve, forgot you had both (you are in a very envious position my friend). Seems many of the potential GT2 buyers are stepping up from a GT3 so they are coming from that as their point of reference when they look at the DME.
Originally Posted by CT944
All happened over 150 hours ago, or >5k miles ago if you use the average miles/hours. I’d see what maintenance has happened in past 5k miles to see if anything came up.
Agreed. if something bad happened from it, it likely would have made itself known by now.
Originally Posted by engerman
Iirc, the CPO expired in April. Was very, very close to buying this car, but couldn’t get myself to do it. I can’t buy a car that I’m scared to push (previous cars engine blew and has made me paranoid). Very pretty car, just too many red flags for me.
Not to get too philosophical, but any mechanical device created by mankind is apt to break. As far as high performance internal combustion automobile engines go, this is a Turbo Mezger we are talking about here. One of the best for long term reliability. On the other hand, there are other engines out there, even made by Porsche, which don't have quite the same reputation. 991.1 GT3 anyone? I was all ready to pick up a .1 RS last year until I found out that not only is that engine based on the same architecture (has the same finger follower issue), but it does not have the extended 10 year engine warranty. Now that is something that scares me more than a Turbo Mezger that did a exactly 24 revolutions in range six about 5,000 miles ago.
Regardless of all this, by all means, whoever may be looking at that car, use that DME report to negotiate yourself a smoking deal!
Hey Steve, forgot you had both (you are in a very envious position my friend). Seems many of the potential GT2 buyers are stepping up from a GT3 so they are coming from that as their point of reference when they look at the DME.
Agreed. if something bad happened from it, it likely would have made itself known by now.
Not to get too philosophical, but any mechanical device created by mankind is apt to break. As far as high performance internal combustion automobile engines go, this is a Turbo Mezger we are talking about here. One of the best for long term reliability. On the other hand, there are other engines out there, even made by Porsche, which don't have quite the same reputation. 991.1 GT3 anyone? I was all ready to pick up a .1 RS last year until I found out that not only is that engine based on the same architecture (has the same finger follower issue), but it does not have the extended 10 year engine warranty. Now that is something that scares me more than a Turbo Mezger that did a exactly 24 revolutions in range six about 5,000 miles ago.
Regardless of all this, by all means, whoever may be looking at that car, use that DME report to negotiate yourself a smoking deal!
I think a friend told me the price is firm, but shouldn't hurt to try.
Hey Steve, forgot you had both (you are in a very envious position my friend). Seems many of the potential GT2 buyers are stepping up from a GT3 so they are coming from that as their point of reference when they look at the DME.
I feel fortunate EVERY SINGLE DAY! Thank you my friend.
You are right to point out that many people absolutely do NOT know that the DME over-rev ranges are very different between the cars.
I still keep my eye on these. I have a feeling I may be able pick one up over the next couple of years. Dream land but has anyone tried back to back v 7 GT2 RS. I've tried GT2 and at the time it would have been my only car with a 60 mile commute last few miles in stop start traffic so passed - actually passed on a GT2 RS at list price Porsche couldn't even sell them
I still keep my eye on these. I have a feeling I may be able pick one up over the next couple of years. Dream land but has anyone tried back to back v 7 GT2 RS. I've tried GT2 and at the time it would have been my only car with a 60 mile commute last few miles in stop start traffic so passed - actually passed on a GT2 RS at list price Porsche couldn't even sell them
In 000 magazine issue 011 they do a back to back driving comparison of 997.1 GT2 and 997.2 GT2 RS, so that may prove helpful if you want to read up about it.
In 000 magazine issue 011 they do a back to back driving comparison of 997.1 GT2 and 997.2 GT2 RS, so that may prove helpful if you want to read up about it.
Without giving away too much let's just say the 997.1 GT2 manages to impress nearly as much as it's newer RS big brother, and probably more so than was originally expected upon driving both cars.
I think of the RS as basically just a numbered edition of the regular GT2. The physical differences are so slight. The market value differential can only be attributed to the relative rarity of the RS, but even that is not huge in the scheme of things (~1,200 vs. 500). It’s not like the regular GT2 was mass produced. Compare to the 3,700+ 991s made, or the ~2,000 996’s made.
Some guys will say that the RS was the last GT2 with a manual and that’s why it’s special.
I say the regular GT2 was the last GT2 with a manual, 5-lug wheels, and no carbon panels and that’s why it’s special.
But the 996 guys will say theirs was the last without nannies
And the 993 guys the last air cooled
This can go on forever back to the Fred Flinstone mobile
I say the regular GT2 was the last GT2 with a manual, 5-lug wheels, and no carbon panels and that’s why it’s special.
But the 996 guys will say theirs was the last without nannies
And the 993 guys the last air cooled
This can go on forever back to the Fred Flinstone mobile
Well said my friend. As passionate enthusiasts we do love to celebrate what made our cars so special. In the case of the latest 997 GT cars we all regale and celebrate the last of hydraulic power steering, last of the Mezger engine, last RS models with 6MT, etc. I'd actually be more worried about us if we did NOT look for these great excuses to celebrate the cars we are so proud to own!
I've never been bothered if its a GT2 or GT2 RS. I actually prefer the looks of the GT2. I also believe gearbox and engine i.e. drive train identical to GT2.
05-04-2020, 12:03 AM
