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Old 04-09-2010 | 06:29 PM
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I'm going to go the full route...AGAIN. It's painful and I hate it. But, I did it last time and never had an issue with warranty to the point that they replaced my engine with a new one. Am I being over-cautious?
Old 04-09-2010 | 06:46 PM
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Not in my opinion. It's painful, but it heightens the anticipation. Consider it foreplay, maybe that will help. I have broken all of my Porsches in pretty much by the book. The only difference was that after each 500 miles I would occasionally run them up an additional 500 rpms. Sounds like you did good on your last car. If it worked before don't change your approach. Good luck.
Old 04-09-2010 | 06:56 PM
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I did it "by the book" for the peace of mind, and to prevent any potential warranty denial possibility down the road. At 4,600 miles, the motor continues to loosen up and performance is superb.
Old 04-09-2010 | 08:01 PM
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I will.
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I'm actually a firm believer of the "italian tune-up" method of engine break in...
Old 04-09-2010 | 08:22 PM
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Several cities in the US are notorious for break ins. Probably closest to you would be Tampa or central Atlanta (MLK). I'm sure if you left her on the street, they do a good job.
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Originally Posted by ZBB0730
I'm going to go the full route...AGAIN. It's painful and I hate it. But, I did it last time and never had an issue with warranty to the point that they replaced my engine with a new one. Am I being over-cautious?
Isn't the fact that your car needed a new motor decent evidence that the factory break in wasn't the best option?
Old 04-09-2010 | 09:47 PM
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Nobody will warranty your engine if you follow their break in process except Porsche AG!

Unless you believe Porsche AG has a conspiracy to ruin your car, I say stick with their guidelines, its about the whole car and the driver not just the engine cylinders.

Plenty of threads on this and most agree on:

- proper warm up

- don't 'lug' (over load) the engine with wrong gear choice and rpm too low

- vary the engine rpm within the range allowed
Old 04-09-2010 | 10:37 PM
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I will drive it normal for 500 mils then to the track. I will run a gear up. My track is tight....top speed 110MPH if you are pushing. Off camber turns....slick...low G's
Old 04-09-2010 | 10:47 PM
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First flat six I broke in by the book and it leaked. Eventual RMS replacement.

Second flat six I burned rubber off the lot, drove her like I stole her, pulled her hair and tossed her around and not only did she not leak, she barely used half a quart in 4000 miles.

I know for SURE how I'm breaking in number three... and it ain't by the book.

IMHO, worst thing one can do is lug the motor in the wrong gear at low speeds.

Warming the oil up first is a given.
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Hmm, lets see... my RS break-in was the first 20 miles 1000 rpm under redline. Then 100 miles of full throttle roll ons, then 300 miles on the track with no limits except avoid actual redline by 100 rpm. Gee, sorry to hear you plan to miss the fun?

Lol...

I'm sorry, remind me again how race engines are broken in? Oh yeah, they lap the track for 2000 miles, driven gently. Where are all these engine break-in track areas for race engines? I can't seem to find them.

Or, maybe, it is a shining sea of engine break-in dynos for all these race engines? Huge industrial areas full of engine dynos breaking in race car engines.

And please point out to me one single documented instance of engine failure related to "improper break-in"? Or Trans failure? Or diff failure? Anything??? Just one, and let's document this old wives tale of gentle, sweet, loving break-in being necessary?

But hey, I am an analytical guy and love to see facts not conjecture. Guess I must be the black sheep...

Brake pads, yes, need a proper break-in to prevent glazing and green fade. And that don't happen either by driving like a scared grandma.

Sorry for the snark, but this topic is so needlessly controversial when just a bit of rational examination would prove illuminating.
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I am taking is easy for the first 4-5 hours on Sunday, no below 2K RPM driving and I'll rev it to about 6K once in a while once hot while accellerating and decellerating as much as possible between 3K and 6K.

My first 500 miles I will try to do in longer stretches making sure it is fully warmed up before I go over recommended break in. I'll take it to the track somewhere between 500 and 1000 miles and short shift a bit and make sure I change the oil before and after.

After that all out.
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ah.......
WHAT are you breaking in ;-)

shoot me an email.

i believe in driving the s**t out if it asap. i was in a 2010 RS today. 850 miles and this is track day #3. man, i had many GT3, this is THE car.
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Originally Posted by mooty
i believe in driving the s**t out if it asap. i was in a 2010 RS today. 850 miles and this is track day #3. man, i had many GT3, this is THE car.


That's what I'm talkin bout! (all points).

Come out to be friends with Ferraris (or "plain" day after) next week Mooty! I should have the Corsa Systems on by then...haha

1500 miles and already worn the tires off...that is what I call a proper break-in!
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send me an emaill
when is friends of ferrari?
is GMC a friend of ferrari ahhaha


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