Ferrari withdraws from US market
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yeah when the first pics of this car were released, i was drooling all over it...
now, the more i see it, especially these latest pics, the less i like it. it seems to have a japanese aesthetic to it-- which is not a knock on japanese design, just a statement about how this Ferrari doesn't seem as "Italian" as previous cars.
stylistically, the comparison to the Enzo is valid... which could be a bad thing. The Enzo is a hypercar, so one almost expects it to be extreme in terms of its design. but the Italia is should IMO be a Ferrari in the classic sense-- performance as well as natural style and elegance.
this one does seem a bit overdone
having said all that, the first time i see one in the metal, i'd probably trip over my own tongue!
now, the more i see it, especially these latest pics, the less i like it. it seems to have a japanese aesthetic to it-- which is not a knock on japanese design, just a statement about how this Ferrari doesn't seem as "Italian" as previous cars.
stylistically, the comparison to the Enzo is valid... which could be a bad thing. The Enzo is a hypercar, so one almost expects it to be extreme in terms of its design. but the Italia is should IMO be a Ferrari in the classic sense-- performance as well as natural style and elegance.
this one does seem a bit overdone
having said all that, the first time i see one in the metal, i'd probably trip over my own tongue!
#51
yeah when the first pics of this car were released, i was drooling all over it...
now, the more i see it, especially these latest pics, the less i like it. it seems to have a japanese aesthetic to it-- which is not a knock on japanese design, just a statement about how this Ferrari doesn't seem as "Italian" as previous cars.
stylistically, the comparison to the Enzo is valid... which could be a bad thing. The Enzo is a hypercar, so one almost expects it to be extreme in terms of its design. but the Italia is should IMO be a Ferrari in the classic sense-- performance as well as natural style and elegance.
this one does seem a bit overdone
having said all that, the first time i see one in the metal, i'd probably trip over my own tongue!
now, the more i see it, especially these latest pics, the less i like it. it seems to have a japanese aesthetic to it-- which is not a knock on japanese design, just a statement about how this Ferrari doesn't seem as "Italian" as previous cars.
stylistically, the comparison to the Enzo is valid... which could be a bad thing. The Enzo is a hypercar, so one almost expects it to be extreme in terms of its design. but the Italia is should IMO be a Ferrari in the classic sense-- performance as well as natural style and elegance.
this one does seem a bit overdone
having said all that, the first time i see one in the metal, i'd probably trip over my own tongue!
For what it's worth, I think the California is 2x more appealing in person than in its photographs, but the California falls short in the details (from the completely useless rear seats that are nothing more than somewhere to throw the shopping bags from the designer stores, to the ridiculously cheesey, plastic headlights with the battlestar gallactica design and the Kia/Hyundai cheap and flimsy plastic cabin trim, controls and "touch points.") You just can't raise the price to US$200K for the new "entry level" Ferrari at the same time as delivering it with components that would make a Lexus designer cringe at the cost cutting and the trashy appearance.
All these criticisms in context, I have deep and unshakeable respect for Ferrari and I still hold hope that there will be another Ferrari for enthusiasts -- the lightweight, affordable car with exceptional handling, no froufrou options and intended for the track day and the weekend driver. This becomes ironically all the more important now that Porsche has met its demise ... and we've seen what happens to the likes of other great marques when VW takes overs.
#53
After reading this entire thread and repeatedly reviewing the photos of this 458, I can't help but think that Ferrari took a fair amount of design cues from the "now defunct" Acura HSC Concept car that appeared as far back as late '06.
http://www.motorcities.com/media/ima...ept-Car-A.jpeg
The 458, as did the 430, has a Japanese look to it.
For $300k, I'd rather have a new ('10) RS and a used '07-'08 Cup car..... my cake and eat it too ........
http://www.motorcities.com/media/ima...ept-Car-A.jpeg
The 458, as did the 430, has a Japanese look to it.
For $300k, I'd rather have a new ('10) RS and a used '07-'08 Cup car..... my cake and eat it too ........
#54
Offering advanced aerodynamics and classically beautiful curves/lines isn't easy (not to mention meeting modern safety requirements). Ferrari/Pininfarina stylists can't really design with their hearts anymore (not for the exterior, at least). That era is gone with the wind.
I like the Italia's profile, but the front does look a bit weird (and the back to a certain extent). However, I have always liked Ferraris better in person than in photos, so I'll reserve final judgment until I see one.
Anyway, I hope it's a successful model for Ferrari. The performance looks fantastic.
I like the Italia's profile, but the front does look a bit weird (and the back to a certain extent). However, I have always liked Ferraris better in person than in photos, so I'll reserve final judgment until I see one.
Anyway, I hope it's a successful model for Ferrari. The performance looks fantastic.
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