Weight Savings -- How Far Is Far
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Though, with with proper engineering and a small fortune of equipment, it is not difficult to build first class carbon fiber hoods, roofs, doors, fenders, engine compartment lids, wings, splitters, spoilers or a myriad of titanium components up to and including speed clips to save weight etc., even complicated components such as carbon fiber front and rear suspensions, carbon fiber transmission casings, exhaust systems, cast titanium or metal maxtrix composite uprights, carbon fiber/titanium struts, etc., etc., attached are pictures of an existing oil line console and the re-engineered version saving approximately 500 grams. As I have said in other posts, none of this is necessary for the street or the amateur race driver (indeed, it would not make much, if any, difference for many classed as "professional drivers") , but, for some, it might be fun.
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titanium/carbon uprights, carbon damper bodies, full carbon brake rotors and titanium calipers, magnesium wheels and center locks, carbon/titanium tie rods, remote canisters away from unsprung weight (the closest to a push rod suspension we get with a conventional car).
I would like to see parts develop to reduce unsprung weight. It is staggering to realize that most cars carry 100 lbs or more of unsprung weigth "per corner".
I would like to see parts develop to reduce unsprung weight. It is staggering to realize that most cars carry 100 lbs or more of unsprung weigth "per corner".
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Hi Robert,
I fully agree with you that with a large sum of money we could achieve very interesting things! It must be enough Porsche owners around that would be interested in getting rid of as Rad says "unsprung weight". Hopefully we ought to able to organize that.
rgds Lars
I fully agree with you that with a large sum of money we could achieve very interesting things! It must be enough Porsche owners around that would be interested in getting rid of as Rad says "unsprung weight". Hopefully we ought to able to organize that.
rgds Lars
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This is what happens when you have a brilliant engineer with too much time on his hands!LOL!
It would take about 20 guys for you all to have the pieces made within a reasonable cost.
With the serious track guys here that should be pretty easy to get 20 guys to put in for an unsprung weight
exercise in engineering from Robert.
It would take about 20 guys for you all to have the pieces made within a reasonable cost.
With the serious track guys here that should be pretty easy to get 20 guys to put in for an unsprung weight
exercise in engineering from Robert.
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This is what happens when you have a brilliant engineer with too much time on his hands!LOL!
It would take about 20 guys for you all to have the pieces made within a reasonable cost.
With the serious track guys here that should be pretty easy to get 20 guys to put in for an unsprung weight
exercise in engineering from Robert.
It would take about 20 guys for you all to have the pieces made within a reasonable cost.
With the serious track guys here that should be pretty easy to get 20 guys to put in for an unsprung weight
exercise in engineering from Robert.
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Not that I expect anyone to do this, but the cost per pound should be less than $1000. Notwithstanding, and with all respect to all, very few people have ever seen truly first class carbon fiber (I have never seen any produced in America) or metal components and, as my mother would have said, eyes are often bigger than stomach.
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Not that I expect anyone to do this, but the cost per pound should be less than $1000. Notwithstanding, and with all respect to all, very few people have ever seen truly first class carbon fiber (I have never seen any produced in America) or metal components and, as my mother would have said, eyes are often bigger than stomach.
By the way, i went to sleep last night thinking what carbon and ti tid-bits would do to my 987S....
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I doubt anyone notices 500 grams, regardless of skill; but when you add up all the little weight savings done 100 times throughout the entire car is when you notice it.
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Will only do anything if there are at least 20 people who want to participate, each at approximately $50,000. This $1 million would enable elegant design, proper tooling and superior components -- and something that would make a difference to performance, not just optics.
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Sounds like the formation of a new company in making.
Can you please clarify what sort of difference in the quality of CF parts are you referring to? You say that in all of America nothing of superior quality can be found. What about your whole aerospace program? Or your new Formula 1 team? And there must be lots of other places.
Can you please clarify what sort of difference in the quality of CF parts are you referring to? You say that in all of America nothing of superior quality can be found. What about your whole aerospace program? Or your new Formula 1 team? And there must be lots of other places.