Would you buy a 2010 GT3 for street driving purposes only?
07-26-2009, 07:12 PM
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As a street car, I prefer my CL with 734lbs of torque 9 out of 10 times... 
Remeber, we have no corners in Florida, except for 90 degree ones with traffic lights...
Never driven a Turbo Porsche, but seems a better fit for street driving...
Remeber, we have no corners in Florida, except for 90 degree ones with traffic lights...
Never driven a Turbo Porsche, but seems a better fit for street driving...
07-26-2009, 07:14 PM
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Here's a solution for you: Get the GT3 plus an inexpensive daily runner. I have a 1995 Camry, in good condition, that I use when I'm not in the mood for the GT3, or when I'm going somewhere GT3 unfriendly. Of course this solution only makes sense if you still believe you will use the GT3 most of the time. You already have a Volvo, right?
07-26-2009, 09:13 PM
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911Dev Wrote:
No only the best of the best can drive a GT3 faster than the C2S PDK. Yes the GT3 will reward you with the best track experience you could ever get. The C2S will reward you more faster. The intriguing thing is that the GT3 reward is so special its very hard to achieve and the car doesnt suffer fools. After thinking I was a pretty good driver in my 993TT. I was quickly shown reality with my FIRST GT3 the 996. My 997 GT3 was a tad easier to drive because of traction control. But Stiil the driver is required to be ALL in on in a GT3 and if you do the experience is as close as you can get to a real race car with license plates. I drove a GT3 from 04 through 08 Daily to the track to the store what ever. But
there were times when I just didnt want to deal with it and I drove a SUV instead. DonQuiote seems like he has made a wise decision.
Three of the most hard core track guys I know have switched to the PDK after realizing its just a better alternative to a GT3 on a Daily basis. I wont mention their names but their names are in the next Sentence. What column has said the speed was better than the PDK? None that I know.
Look at Ferrari drivers -they are all gold wearing Corvette converts. SOME of them know what they are doing and yet Ferrari makes 90% or more F1s of each model. And the PDK is better than the F1.
Look at race cars. how many trannies are manual and even then they are sequential not true manuals,
to make it easier on the driver. WHY?
DonQuiote one solution is to get your PDK 911 and then get a GT3 996 version. They have be getting less and less expensive.
A C2S (MKII) PDK may be faster than a slow GT3 MKI driver, but he/she won't be faster than than an experienced driver nor will they be faster than a MKII GT3 and slower still if they don't have the PDK advantage.
there were times when I just didnt want to deal with it and I drove a SUV instead. DonQuiote seems like he has made a wise decision.
Three of the most hard core track guys I know have switched to the PDK after realizing its just a better alternative to a GT3 on a Daily basis. I wont mention their names but their names are in the next Sentence. What column has said the speed was better than the PDK? None that I know.
Look at Ferrari drivers -they are all gold wearing Corvette converts. SOME of them know what they are doing and yet Ferrari makes 90% or more F1s of each model. And the PDK is better than the F1.
Look at race cars. how many trannies are manual and even then they are sequential not true manuals,
to make it easier on the driver. WHY?
DonQuiote one solution is to get your PDK 911 and then get a GT3 996 version. They have be getting less and less expensive.
07-26-2009, 09:52 PM
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No only the best of the best can drive a GT3 faster than the C2S PDK. Yes the GT3 will reward you with the best track experience you could ever get. The C2S will reward you more faster. The intriguing thing is that the GT3 reward is so special its very hard to achieve and the car doesnt suffer fools. After thinking I was a pretty good driver in my 993TT. I was quickly shown reality with my FIRST GT3 the 996. My 997 GT3 was a tad easier to drive because of traction control. But Stiil the driver is required to be ALL in on in a GT3 and if you do the experience is as close as you can get to a real race car with license plates. I drove a GT3 from 04 through 08 Daily to the track to the store what ever. But
there were times when I just didnt want to deal with it and I drove a SUV instead. DonQuiote seems like he has made a wise decision.
Three of the most hard core track guys I know have switched to the PDK after realizing its just a better alternative to a GT3 on a Daily basis. I wont mention their names but their names are in the next Sentence. What column has said the speed was better than the PDK? None that I know.
Look at Ferrari drivers -they are all gold wearing Corvette converts. SOME of them know what they are doing and yet Ferrari makes 90% or more F1s of each model. And the PDK is better than the F1.
Look at race cars. how many trannies are manual and even then they are sequential not true manuals,
to make it easier on the driver. WHY?
DonQuiote one solution is to get your PDK 911 and then get a GT3 996 version. They have be getting less and less expensive.
No only the best of the best can drive a GT3 faster than the C2S PDK. Yes the GT3 will reward you with the best track experience you could ever get. The C2S will reward you more faster. The intriguing thing is that the GT3 reward is so special its very hard to achieve and the car doesnt suffer fools. After thinking I was a pretty good driver in my 993TT. I was quickly shown reality with my FIRST GT3 the 996. My 997 GT3 was a tad easier to drive because of traction control. But Stiil the driver is required to be ALL in on in a GT3 and if you do the experience is as close as you can get to a real race car with license plates. I drove a GT3 from 04 through 08 Daily to the track to the store what ever. But
there were times when I just didnt want to deal with it and I drove a SUV instead. DonQuiote seems like he has made a wise decision.
Three of the most hard core track guys I know have switched to the PDK after realizing its just a better alternative to a GT3 on a Daily basis. I wont mention their names but their names are in the next Sentence. What column has said the speed was better than the PDK? None that I know.
Look at Ferrari drivers -they are all gold wearing Corvette converts. SOME of them know what they are doing and yet Ferrari makes 90% or more F1s of each model. And the PDK is better than the F1.
Look at race cars. how many trannies are manual and even then they are sequential not true manuals,
to make it easier on the driver. WHY?
DonQuiote one solution is to get your PDK 911 and then get a GT3 996 version. They have be getting less and less expensive.
07-27-2009, 01:41 AM
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Noel you still have to think about shifting and brake points with the new cars. You can shut most of the stuff off. It works really well on the street.
07-27-2009, 04:56 AM
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Here's a solution for you: Get the GT3 plus an inexpensive daily runner. I have a 1995 Camry, in good condition, that I use when I'm not in the mood for the GT3, or when I'm going somewhere GT3 unfriendly. Of course this solution only makes sense if you still believe you will use the GT3 most of the time.
07-27-2009, 10:02 AM
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"Here's a solution for you: Get the GT3 plus an inexpensive daily runner. I have a 1995 Camry, in good condition, that I use when I'm not in the mood for the GT3, or when I'm going somewhere GT3 unfriendly. Of course this solution only makes sense if you still believe you will use the GT3 most of the time. You already have a Volvo, right?"
"Excellent suggestion- exactly what I'm planning to do... Nissan to work and places where cars get trashed... GT3 everywhere else..."
SeedGeek and 911rox,
Yes, I always intended to keep my Volvo to fulfill the "dirty daily duties." Thanks for your thoughts!
"Excellent suggestion- exactly what I'm planning to do... Nissan to work and places where cars get trashed... GT3 everywhere else..."
SeedGeek and 911rox,
Yes, I always intended to keep my Volvo to fulfill the "dirty daily duties." Thanks for your thoughts!
07-27-2009, 01:23 PM
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07-27-2009, 02:37 PM
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I just ordered my new Guards Red 2010 GT3. I decided to get the ceramics when the chips were down. Ordered PCM with nav but no chrono. Also got full leather and the sport buckets and white gauges. Also ordered a few bling items such as the illuminated carbon fiber door sill guards which I had on my last gt3 and really liked. Got an October build with dynamic engine mounts and front lift system too.
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07-27-2009, 02:54 PM
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It is a perfectly useable street car and no more overpowered or harsh than any of the other competing models from different makes. The fact is that you should get what you want. I understand the arguments that it is more car than necessary for the road but I would prefer Catrinel Menghia over Marge Simpson even though Marge is perfectly fine.
07-27-2009, 03:58 PM
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It is a perfectly useable street car and no more overpowered or harsh than any of the other competing models from different makes. The fact is that you should get what you want. I understand the arguments that it is more car than necessary for the road but I would prefer Catrinel Menghia over Marge Simpson even though Marge is perfectly fine.
07-27-2009, 04:02 PM
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I just ordered my new Guards Red 2010 GT3. I decided to get the ceramics when the chips were down. Ordered PCM with nav but no chrono. Also got full leather and the sport buckets and white gauges. Also ordered a few bling items such as the illuminated carbon fiber door sill guards which I had on my last gt3 and really liked. Got an October build with dynamic engine mounts and front lift system too.
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Nice to hear that you like the Carbon Sills. I didn't go illuminated, but did go with carbon. Even though the new steels are bigger and lighter and floating, those ceramics with the new buttons are beautiful.
Be sure to order XDZ with full leather. Just my opinion.
07-27-2009, 04:46 PM
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Hey Mooty, Can you explain what you mean by this? I understand that it is a street car, though a harsh one at that. What I do not get is the "can be tracked once in a while" part. I am curious about this perspective.