HHANS951

http://excellence-mag.com/art1/art1p1.html


Hans

www.racperformance.com

David A

I love the carbon door panels.

TB993tt

Many thanks for the link.....

I have seen the car in the flesh and IMO the carbon door panels are horrible and a bit cheap looking, the stock set up is so much better (unless of course you just have to save a few lbs)

TRAKCAR

Cool! Makes much more sense than just adding more power...

997gt3north

update Porsche Motorsport LSD clutch stack says it all - wtf is Porsche doing selling a 200k car that has a LSD that can't last one lap around the ring??

NJ-GT

Exactly the way to improve the GT2 as a road car, new suspension, a few monoball parts, light wheels (it needs them), LSD, exhaust, ECU tuning and non 997-Turbo intercoolers.

Notice they don't touch the brakes, they're good. On the same stock tires they dropped 1.3 secs per lap, that's a true statement of the performance improvement, the way it should be done.

OldGuy

I had the whole Manthey 410 HP kit on my 996 GT3 and man that car was schweet. In retrospect I should have kept that one and save my self all this other crap. Manthey stuff was top of the line great stuff. the headers the cats everything was just great.

sharkster

Hehe... Good point. CF can look great in pictures when clearcoated....

Had fun reading the article...

stout

Just don't read the cover too closely!

(still bracing for the first nasty email/post/letter...)

pete

NJ-GT

pete, did you get to drive the Manthey GT2?

zellamsee

Is it the paragraph re Weissach and intercoolers?

va122

woah, so my mags (18") are saving 264lbs from the car using the 6:1 ratio and a whopping 308 using Porsche's 7:1 ratio. damn.

So I guess they're safe to drive on the road. Rad you have them too, do you drive on the street with them? I'm paranoid of them cracking.

Carrera GT

You've got me. I don't see the mistake in the actual magazine cover. That's not to say it's subtle ... and yes, folks write into Exc with all kinds of bizarre missive rants.

NJ-GT

I don't have them anymore. Don't use them on the streets, they're great as track wheels, and nothing is lighter, not even the Dymags.

I don't buy that 6:1 or 7:1 ratio from wheels. I have driven them and the stock ones at the same events. The car won't perform as a 300 lbs lighter car. It performs better because I run slicks with the Monoblocs and MPSC with the stock wheels.

I took 300 lbs from my 996 GT3 back in 2006, and I know how it felt being 300 lbs lighter, it was a monster fast car, got it down to 2,760 lbs weighed at the SCCA Solo Nationals impound scales. There is no way a set of wheels is going to give me that feeling, not remotely.

At most it's a 2:1 thing. Combined with PCCB, monobloc wheels and michelin slicks, I took 111 lbs from the GT3 RS on unsprung weight, ask me if I was driving a 777 lbs lighter GT3 RS. As much respect as I have for Olaf Manthey's work, it is bad to interview him on Friday night.

Carrera GT

The flywheel ratios pertain only to the brief instances of peak inertia -- be it derived from the engine or the wheels or anywhere in-between, I imagine -- perhaps adding up to 10% of a lap time, applied to 10% of the lap for a driver turning a flawless lap of threshold braking and perfect throttle control -- the points where most drives make the largest margin mistakes of judgment or skill. So the idea of a 10% gain pertains to 10% of the track at peaks ... call it 1% of lap time ... still a winning margin of course but hard for anyone trying to feel or find that kind of limit in a street car even when it's rebuilt as a track car, it's still 2700-2800 lbs and suspension travel, etc. and that's before thinking about actual race conditions (line, power, momentum, tires, fuel, overtaking, etc.)

Anyhoot, I'm curious about the mistake in the front page ... : )