Pagid P50 "green" race pad - pics + some info ...
01-31-2011, 09:05 PM
#46
Instructor
Agreed. It is best to visually monitor your pad wear and replace them before they get this low. But, here is the rub. With the PCCB brakes, the beveling on the front pad can be quite dramatic at times. There have been times where one end of the pad may have 8-9mm of material, while the other end is down to the 5-6mm area where the metal bonding posts start to appear. In this particular case, the pad wear sensors hadn't even gone off yet! (I'm probably one of the few who replaces the sensors with the pads whenever they melt)
01-31-2011, 10:28 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
But, here is the rub. With the PCCB brakes, the beveling on the front pad can be quite dramatic at times. There have been times where one end of the pad may have 8-9mm of material, while the other end is down to the 5-6mm area where the metal bonding posts start to appear.
If I go 6 days straight I get the numbers you have 8-9mm on the thick side and 5-6mm on the thin side.
03-20-2012, 06:28 PM
#50
Three Wheelin'
03-20-2012, 09:47 PM
#52
Rennlist Member
Craig, do you know what the Carrera Supercup series use for their pads? With the latest "un-endorsement" of green pads by Porsche I wonder why these things still exist...
03-20-2012, 10:08 PM
#53
Drifting
Thread Starter
The Supercups that run the ceramic rotors use the p50s - they may also use other pads but they do use the p50s
No point me posting my opinion on these as I have already, I don't daily drive the gt3 but I take it out when I can and to make life easier for I run the p50s all the time street and track and have done so for 3 years - and that has to be longer than almost anybody. If I did daily the car I would run stock pads no question.
They are not for everyone but they work for me.
That and I snapped up 2 extra sets of slightly used ceramics at $4k each so considering I can get 40-50 days on a used set of rotors to me it's a no brainer.
No point me posting my opinion on these as I have already, I don't daily drive the gt3 but I take it out when I can and to make life easier for I run the p50s all the time street and track and have done so for 3 years - and that has to be longer than almost anybody. If I did daily the car I would run stock pads no question.
They are not for everyone but they work for me.
That and I snapped up 2 extra sets of slightly used ceramics at $4k each so considering I can get 40-50 days on a used set of rotors to me it's a no brainer.
03-21-2012, 04:50 AM
#55
Rennlist Member
The Supercups that run the ceramic rotors use the p50s - they may also use other pads but they do use the p50s
No point me posting my opinion on these as I have already, I don't daily drive the gt3 but I take it out when I can and to make life easier for I run the p50s all the time street and track and have done so for 3 years - and that has to be longer than almost anybody. If I did daily the car I would run stock pads no question.
They are not for everyone but they work for me.
That and I snapped up 2 extra sets of slightly used ceramics at $4k each so considering I can get 40-50 days on a used set of rotors to me it's a no brainer.
No point me posting my opinion on these as I have already, I don't daily drive the gt3 but I take it out when I can and to make life easier for I run the p50s all the time street and track and have done so for 3 years - and that has to be longer than almost anybody. If I did daily the car I would run stock pads no question.
They are not for everyone but they work for me.
That and I snapped up 2 extra sets of slightly used ceramics at $4k each so considering I can get 40-50 days on a used set of rotors to me it's a no brainer.
- New rotor, with near-perfect finish, matte laminate surface
- Wear indicators starting to show
- Individual fibers burning out, causing surface to pit, but laminate surface still largely intact
- Pitted areas (depressions) increasingly more common, exceeding the area of original laminate surface
- Complete delamination where none of the laminate surface remains and the rotor surface looks like rough concrete
Going by the official tech bullets, replacement is due at the second-last stage. How long did it take you to get there, in terms of days on track and sets of pads?
Last edited by CRex; 03-21-2012 at 06:11 AM.
03-21-2012, 10:54 AM
#56
Drifting
Thread Starter
Thanks. That's helpful. How long have your rotors lasted based on your usage? From observation the rotors go through different stages of deterioration:
Going by the official tech bullets, replacement is due at the second-last stage. How long did it take you to get there, in terms of days on track and sets of pads?
- New rotor, with near-perfect finish, matte laminate surface
- Wear indicators starting to show
- Individual fibers burning out, causing surface to pit, but laminate surface still largely intact
- Pitted areas (depressions) increasingly more common, exceeding the area of original laminate surface
- Complete delamination where none of the laminate surface remains and the rotor surface looks like rough concrete
Going by the official tech bullets, replacement is due at the second-last stage. How long did it take you to get there, in terms of days on track and sets of pads?
- I replaced the rears because the insides were pretty bad.
- I blame that entirely on the lack of air ducts, now have them, and the few times early on that when i was learning the car and TC was firing
- I also blame it on the fact that to OE pads wedged pretty badly and I didn't catch it in time
My estimate is that a new set of rotors running P50s all the time will last around 50 DE days if you are really abusing them in terms of lap times but are not abusing them in terms of changing pads when required, cool down laps, etc, etc. But one day on either set of pads if you get down to the backing plates with the wedging issue and you can kill them without knowing it almost instantly.
They need replaced before 5 happens - lets say around 4 1/2 is the end.
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Sorry to hijack, but if anyone on this thread is looking for these Pagid Green pads, I am trying to offload a set.
Pagid Greens for sale link
Pagid Greens for sale link