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Old 04-08-2008, 03:51 PM
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Default How Often Are Track Alignments Needed ??

Just wondering after how many track days is a track alignment needed to be done? That is assuming hard driving and no "offs" .

Does the same apply to corner balancing as well?

Does the changing of new tires and wheels impact the track alignment? What if the wheel sizes are the same but the tires are one up-size larger on the front and rear?

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Three times a year at least.
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The GT3 is notorious for going out of alignment if you hit even little bumps, especially rear toe. Upsizing tires using the "plus one" method will not require re-alignment nor corner balance. The use of better rear toe links is a good idea since they will keep the correct settings far better than the OEM ones. I do mine twice a year and more often if the car's handling changes.
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having OCD, my alignment is chk'd every 4 weeks.

though with OEM toe links, i have NEVER had my rear toe go off despite hitting and driving over all the apex berms, i decided to go with the better toe links. there is no reason to take unnecessary chances.
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before every track event
toe often neeeds correcting
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I just had new toe links installed. If you get new toe links you can have it done a few times a year unless you are a serious track junkie. My alignment was off after one three day weekend at VIR before I got the new links
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+1 for upgrading Toe links
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Who carries this links? I assume you guys are talking about rubber to soild... TIA
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My toe links and solid goodies are going in next week, should be a nice difference taking those sweepers at 140 and having no little hint of "wallow" lol..

Im fully redoing my suspension setup and it's been about a month, but ye I guess I would check it as Mooty says every 4-6 weeks depending on how much track duty your doing or street driving with rough roads!
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Who carries this links? I assume you guys are talking about rubber to soild... TIA
Almost all of the site sponsors have the toe links. It is not a matter of rubber versus metal. The OEM toe adjuster is an eccentric cam which rotates against aluminum. It can be jarred out of position easily. I like the ones from The Racers Group. they are like turnbuckles and once adjusted are locked into position very securely. Toe is adjusted by changing the length of the toe link. There are others, check in with one of the suppliers who sponsor this site who is loacl to you.

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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Almost all of the site sponsors have the toe links. It is not a matter of rubber versus metal. The OEM toe adjuster is an eccentric cam which rotates against aluminum. It can be jarred out of position easily. I like the ones from The Racers Group. they are like turnbuckles and once adjusted are locked into position very securely. Toe is adjusted by changing the length of the toe link. There are others, check in with one of the suppliers who sponsor this site who is loacl to you.

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Tarret is highly recommended even over the porsche motorsports parts and others on the market, that's what i went with from talking to tons of people in the porsche racing industry!
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Almost all of the site sponsors have the toe links. It is not a matter of rubber versus metal. The OEM toe adjuster is an eccentric cam which rotates against aluminum. It can be jarred out of position easily. I like the ones from The Racers Group. they are like turnbuckles and once adjusted are locked into position very securely. Toe is adjusted by changing the length of the toe link. There are others, check in with one of the suppliers who sponsor this site who is loacl to you.

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Does it help to take a marker and mark across the current setting to see if it moves? would you be able to see the difference if it moves out of alignment???
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your whole suspension should be visually inspected and nut & bolted and aligned as well as a spin balance of wheels that may have thrown a weight and bearings checked before each track event at a minimum....if your race shop is not recommending or doing this for you; change shops...
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Originally Posted by leif997
your whole suspension should be visually inspected and nut & bolted and aligned as well as a spin balance of wheels that may have thrown a weight and bearings checked before each track event at a minimum....if your race shop is not recommending or doing this for you; change shops...
+1. And replace those OEM toe links with the Racers Group as Bob suggested. ASAP.
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Originally Posted by BobbyC
+1. And replace those OEM toe links with the Racers Group as Bob suggested. ASAP.
Agreed with leif, that's what I do as well. BTW do people usually go with F/R toe links or just the rear?


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