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#4
Show-boating and out of control. Unless having your left hand on the right hand inside of the wheel and waiting for "God to the drive" is your idea of good driving -- the guy had no control in case of things going astray.
Watch a video of Walter "handling" a Carrera GT (or any 911 in the last couple of decades) and you'll see the point, especially in terms of throttle steering and familiarity with input and effect.
Watch a video of Walter "handling" a Carrera GT (or any 911 in the last couple of decades) and you'll see the point, especially in terms of throttle steering and familiarity with input and effect.
#5
I wish I could drive like this.
You're being sarcastic, right???
The opposite-lock crap near the end of the video is slow, abusive and best left to the Tokyo Drift crowd. It should have no place in a race driver's repertoire. In any event, what the driver does in the video does not appear to be all that well done!
Anyone who drives like this with me as his/her instructor (and it has happened) doesn't get signed off until they show me they can do it right!
You're being sarcastic, right???
The opposite-lock crap near the end of the video is slow, abusive and best left to the Tokyo Drift crowd. It should have no place in a race driver's repertoire. In any event, what the driver does in the video does not appear to be all that well done!
Anyone who drives like this with me as his/her instructor (and it has happened) doesn't get signed off until they show me they can do it right!
#7
Originally Posted by mooty
i dont know.
seems that he's good at catching the slides, but it is totally unnecessary to upset the car like that.
seems that he's good at catching the slides, but it is totally unnecessary to upset the car like that.
I have to confess to reaching for the "TC" button myself (and with no more splendid results...) but it's not the way the job gets done. : )
I didnt' want to include it in my "996 vs 997" comparison, but the 997 does transition to power-on oversteer with an inviting sense of control and progressive, tight response to the helm. The 996 is more old school with a "throw it with the steering wheel and catch it with the throttle" approach. Of course, either car would benefit from better suspension setup and both cars are running so much rubber (for 400hp 911's) that speeds climb to "consequences" levels before the handling really starts to work.
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#10
Sequence at the end was sweet, timing was almost dead on. Hes been through those three before obviously and was throwing some very cool brody catches in rythm. Notice how he releases the car to throw into 2nd slide and where his turn in and track outs are...almost perfect. Not the fast way through, but for what he was doing almost perfect. Notice how he cranks the wheel a bit extra at the end of each turn to toss the tail for entry into the next one. Thanks for sharing, very nice.
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Originally Posted by Carrera GT
Of course, either car would benefit from better suspension setup and both cars are running so much rubber (for 400hp 911's) that speeds climb to "consequences" levels before the handling really starts to work.
btw, i do understand your orig comment. i am not disputing it; the driver in question is showboating, rather than doing best lap time.
#12
I don't know. Looks like great fun and he looked in control.
If you have the skills and can pull off some drifting like that safely, why the hell not? I was at BMWs performance center a while back in Spartanburg; one of the pro drivers that we had as instructors ran me around the track in full-on tokyo still drifting. Great fun!
If you have the skills and can pull off some drifting like that safely, why the hell not? I was at BMWs performance center a while back in Spartanburg; one of the pro drivers that we had as instructors ran me around the track in full-on tokyo still drifting. Great fun!
#15
Originally Posted by Glen
Sequence at the end was sweet, timing was almost dead on. Hes been through those three before obviously and was throwing some very cool brody catches in rythm. Notice how he releases the car to throw into 2nd slide and where his turn in and track outs are...almost perfect. Not the fast way through, but for what he was doing almost perfect. Notice how he cranks the wheel a bit extra at the end of each turn to toss the tail for entry into the next one. Thanks for sharing, very nice.
Obviously he wasn't trying to set a lap record but I don't understand you guys bitching about his driving.
I didn't like his shuffle steering (before he started to play) but those last turns where he shows off and slides around show really good car control.
Last edited by Flying Finn; 01-22-2007 at 11:55 AM.