Billy Wyatt

Do you think they will price the gt2 at190k??? Did they not see that it was way over priced before??Do you realize how many people lost there asses on the last model. Plus not many got sold.

krC2S

based on the parallel trends in all models in 996 and 997...just comapre all the prices on 996 and 997 cars GT2 should be 200k

nkhalidi

What's your current level of development? Forgive me if I'm not 'in the know' about your car's modifications.

I agree that the 997 GT2 will be the next 911 to beat - it's hard to argue with that evolutionarily - but because almost all (if not all) Porsche Motorsport cars are naturally aspirated, I lean toward the n/a cars for the track. I also prefer n/a power delivery. It's one thing to get the power/weight ratio in your favor, but it's another thing to learn to drive a boosted, oversteering tiger around a track.

frayed

NJ, Comparing the 997 to the 996 cars, I think the biggest improvement will prove out to be the improved suspension geometry that makes the new chassis so much more predictable and tractable. As you look at the race cars, all this stuff has already been 'fixed' in the 996 cars. So, the difference in race cars will be less noticable IMO.

nkhalidi, those PCCbs still holding up on track?

red993tt

As much as I love my 996GT2 I am not looking forward to blow 200K on the 997GT2 and then loose 80 of that 3 yrs later.Roof or no roof the RS seems to be a better choice this time around.

NJ-GT

nothing to forgive nk, at a glance,

- 3133 lbs stock with 1/8th fuel tank, weighed 2760 lbs at the SCCA Solo Nationals this year.
- Manthey Racing strut mounts, GT3 Cup Toe Links, Rear GT3 RS control arms, GT3 RSR monoball inner bearings, adjustable drop links, AP Racing upper monoball arms, metal bushings everywhere, Moton CS, custom linear springs front/rear, helper springs fully compressed at 80% static load.
- RSR Ring and Pinion gear, GT3 Cup LSD, GT3 RS LWFW, RSR Pressure plate.
- PCCB with more rear brakes bias than stock.
- 18"x10" and 18"x12" on 285/30R18 and 335/30R18 tires.
- The best upgrade: Corner weighed, aligned, driven and tuned by Jon Groom, based on the data provided from my track days, AutoX. Front and rear bump steer reduced.

On Michelin PSC (r-comp) the car ran Pocono North at 60.9 secs (stock car), 60.3 with 265/315 MPSC and 100 lbs reduced, 59.6 on Moton suspension and 200 lbs reduced. Most recently ran a 56.7 on Hoosiers A6. Back in 2004 it ran 11.82 sec on the 1/4 mile at 120.33 mph, without the level of upgrades it has right now.

PogueMoHone

NJ-GT

I want to read your posts when you upgrade!

Carrera GT

What alignment specs did you end up with and which tyres?
What did you do to reduce rear bump steer?
Is the (steel) Cup LSD quieter than the stock GT3 (brass?) LSD?
Where did you find the real weight savings?
Aside from PCCB, I've been through the car a dozen times and not found anything significant (aside from the seats) that can be improved (realistically) on the stock US-spec GT3 MkII.
I'm looking for a cheaper damper upgrade than the Club Sports.
I imagine the lower R&P gearing is 90% of the performance. That's the most tempting thing to do along with a lightweight flywheel.
Given the change to the 997 LSD spec (and the quality of the shifter) those two items are on the "maybe" list. : )

NJ-GT

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RR

NJ,

You may like the idea of a 600HP modified 997GT2, but I don't think that the extra 2 seconds or even 6 seconds that a GT2 may give you on the track is worth it, considering the following math.

1. Add the money you spent on your current GT3.
2. Add the extra $$$ the 997GT2 will cost (200K plus)
3. Add the extra $$$ you will spend modifying that already expensive 997GT2 to your liking.

nkhalidi

Frayed: I'm still on PCCB street pads, and I'm experiencing pad fade after five hot laps around Sebring. I'll lay off it for a 1/2 lap, then it comes back strong. I'm considering switching to PCCB motorsport pads, which I'll probably do early next summer when it's time to replace the PCCB street pads. Otherwise everything is terrific. High-temp fluid (I'm using GS610) is key.

NJ: Well, damn. It's going to hard for ANY streetable car to come close to your numbers. I love the amount of rubber you've stuffed under the car. The only thing I'd point out is that any stock street 997 variant is likely more street-comfortable and quieter than your car. Metal-on-metal is obviously the way to go for the track, but many of us (myself included) like having a car we can flog at the track, then drive back home with the windows up, A/C on, and carry on a conversation.

Woodster

NJ-GT: sorry for hi-jack but your car ran a 11 something quarter mile????

How the heck did you do that??

Please let us know.

MK

NJ-GT

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It should be running mid 11s right now. I will test it next season, it seems that RWD/forced induction 911s are not coming any time soon, so I might have to keep my car another year.

pole position

Every single one sold and some early ones substantially over list. The 997 Gt2 will do exactly the same unless the economy takes a Jimmy Carter type of dump.

As far as PAG/PCNA is concerned once the car is at the port/dealership the car is sold and they could not care less if it sits one day or one year. They got paid.

Bob Rouleau

FWIW - I had one of the first 2002 GT2s. Nice car. Stupidly overpriced. hen PAG gave the TT the GT2 drive train and later the X73 suspension. Smart buyers bought the TT with the GT2 powertrain and suspension (or beter, upgraded to Motons or equivalent) and still had money in the bank. GT2 resale took the pipe. I bought a GT3 and prefer it on the track. That's just me though. Oh, and when I sold the GT2 I took a bath. GT2 - 911 cars for the world, one year production spanning 2002 and 2003. Yeah. Sure.