Achtung! IMPORTANT SUNROOF ANNOUNCEMENT
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Originally Posted by mooty
if rs is 10k more = 116k base price, that would be great for some USA buyers.
1. Wider body/track (I could do without that)
2. LWF (I hope so) - great
3. Graphics and wheels matching colors (sort of cool)
4. Stiffer PASM setup (not sure this is needed, but need to try both)
5. Carbon rear wing - ok
6. GT seats? Would be great if included
7. Sunroof Delete - yeah
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No significant weight loss, I think...
Seems that these things would cost Porsche very little (or maybe even less) - I'd still do it though...
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grant, chk out porscheusa.com.
there's a clip on RS.
assuming USA site only shows cars meant for USA (big IF) then we may get lexan rear screen, single mass flywheel and CGT derived seats. read through the text, i am a bit surprised but fingers crossed hoping for the best.
there's a clip on RS.
assuming USA site only shows cars meant for USA (big IF) then we may get lexan rear screen, single mass flywheel and CGT derived seats. read through the text, i am a bit surprised but fingers crossed hoping for the best.
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Originally Posted by mooty
grant, chk out porscheusa.com.
there's a clip on RS.
assuming USA site only shows cars meant for USA (big IF) then we may get lexan rear screen, single mass flywheel and CGT derived seats. read through the text, i am a bit surprised but fingers crossed hoping for the best.
there's a clip on RS.
assuming USA site only shows cars meant for USA (big IF) then we may get lexan rear screen, single mass flywheel and CGT derived seats. read through the text, i am a bit surprised but fingers crossed hoping for the best.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Hi Mooty - I guess I assumed that was international description of the RS, not including USA. If it is and it costs $10k, that would be too good to be true. I think the GT seats cost more than that alone...
you are right about the seats. i was going to buy a pair of CGT seats for my cayman. then i fainted when i was quoted 3500 USD, each... needless to say, i didn't go forth with the seats.
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As I mentioned before:
Straight from the disclaimer section:
"While Porsche endeavors to periodically update posted information, not all information may be current, and Porsche does not guarantee the accuracy or reliability of such data. Specifications on the website are for comparison purposes only; specifications, standard equipment, options and pricing are subject to change without notice. Some options may be unavailable when your car is built. Some vehicles may be shown with non-U.S. or non-Canadian equipment. Please consult your dealer for advice concerning the current availabilty and pricing of options..."
Straight from the disclaimer section:
"While Porsche endeavors to periodically update posted information, not all information may be current, and Porsche does not guarantee the accuracy or reliability of such data. Specifications on the website are for comparison purposes only; specifications, standard equipment, options and pricing are subject to change without notice. Some options may be unavailable when your car is built. Some vehicles may be shown with non-U.S. or non-Canadian equipment. Please consult your dealer for advice concerning the current availabilty and pricing of options..."
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Originally Posted by enthusiast
Excellent ! Maybe we can save the 2008 997 GT3 as well.
How disappointing that you did not get any applause at the gathering.
So if they did listen to us on the 997 GT3 RS then why don't they send all who complained a form letter stating the change???![typing](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/yltype.gif)
The diesel engine issue is one of the reasons Porsche AG is not competing in the top class in sports car racing.
How disappointing that you did not get any applause at the gathering.
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So if they did listen to us on the 997 GT3 RS then why don't they send all who complained a form letter stating the change???
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The diesel engine issue is one of the reasons Porsche AG is not competing in the top class in sports car racing.
I agree, they most certainly should send a form letter out.
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Originally Posted by MJSpeed
Man Chris if this is true and you better be telling the truth...we (those of us that put the whole letter idea together) have made this happen...it is with much satisfaction that I type this...awesome news!!!
Listen guys, I certainly would not mess with you on this one. This is exactly what he said that the RS could be had without the hole. I point blank asked him this question as I stated and in a room full of 100 plus Porsche owners that was the response he gave.
I am telling the truth and unless the Pres./CEO of PCNA chose to lie in front of everyone present it is a victory.
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One last time.
Guys I know I only have 60 some odd posts and am not a guru of any sorts for you all but I have enjoyed my almost 2 years on this forum.
As I mentioned recently in another post I have just purchased Jerseybean's 05 GT3 thanks to a lot of you guys help. I am very thankful for such a medium as this and I certainly would not "violate" it with false claims.
I was in the Porshceplatz tent at the Petit LeMans with these 4 gentlemen. I asked the question point blank as stated and he replied as stated. I took that to mean that on the GT3 we would never get the option to delete the sunroof, at least not on the 07 MY. Whether the RS comes without the sunroof or as an option to delete he did not specify. He only answered my question as posed but we would be able to get it without the hole.
Most questions were directed at the Motorsports guys so PCNA Pres/CEO did not entertain many questions and they left very quickly after the presentation.
For what it is worth I forgot to mention in the original post that one other person asked if we would be able to get the clubsport package here in the states and the answer was a resounding NO! He said it would be nice to get that and offer it here but could not because of regulations.
Again this is old news in a way and you can read into that what you want as it is not specific enough in regards to whether we will get the seats and lightweight windows but I took it to mean NO WE WON'T.
Guys I know I only have 60 some odd posts and am not a guru of any sorts for you all but I have enjoyed my almost 2 years on this forum.
As I mentioned recently in another post I have just purchased Jerseybean's 05 GT3 thanks to a lot of you guys help. I am very thankful for such a medium as this and I certainly would not "violate" it with false claims.
I was in the Porshceplatz tent at the Petit LeMans with these 4 gentlemen. I asked the question point blank as stated and he replied as stated. I took that to mean that on the GT3 we would never get the option to delete the sunroof, at least not on the 07 MY. Whether the RS comes without the sunroof or as an option to delete he did not specify. He only answered my question as posed but we would be able to get it without the hole.
Most questions were directed at the Motorsports guys so PCNA Pres/CEO did not entertain many questions and they left very quickly after the presentation.
For what it is worth I forgot to mention in the original post that one other person asked if we would be able to get the clubsport package here in the states and the answer was a resounding NO! He said it would be nice to get that and offer it here but could not because of regulations.
Again this is old news in a way and you can read into that what you want as it is not specific enough in regards to whether we will get the seats and lightweight windows but I took it to mean NO WE WON'T.
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Originally Posted by MJSpeed
Noah,
What's up with all your conspiracy theories...we apparently got what we wanted. A 997 GT3RS with NO HOLE!
What's up with all your conspiracy theories...we apparently got what we wanted. A 997 GT3RS with NO HOLE!
Not conspiracy, but marketing theory. Straight out of the Harley Davidson textbook. Create many variants from one. That's why the RS exists, and I would contend, exists without a sunroof. The new leader, raw, without compromise and no sunroof. Porsche is clever at the game. Put a tin roof on a Boxster. Not a Boxster coupe, but a brand new Cayman, worth more $$$ than a Boxster. Maybe Porsche will start releasing all new future models as convertibles so they can then release the coupe at a premium.
Who knows? In the future, the top GT3 may be the GT3RSXLFTCB and you all will have to have it. :-)
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Originally Posted by Chris L.
Listen guys, I certainly would not mess with you on this one. This is exactly what he said that the RS could be had without the hole. I point blank asked him this question as I stated and in a room full of 100 plus Porsche owners that was the response he gave.
I am telling the truth and unless the Pres./CEO of PCNA chose to lie in front of everyone present it is a victory.
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I am telling the truth and unless the Pres./CEO of PCNA chose to lie in front of everyone present it is a victory.
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Originally Posted by MJSpeed
Maybe they got an exception from the NHSTA/DOT based on the fact that it is or apparently will be a low volume model. Or maybe they, like Ferrari used computer simulations to get the exemption.
My guess is it may have more to do with the timing of the RS - 2008, the customer outcry - us, the inability to affect the 07 GT3 production plan. If you listen to or read all the responses from PCNA/PAG so far, they never placed a time frame on the decision to stick with the sunroof mandatory for the GT3. As I said before though, they can't announce a change in their stance before the thing even begins shipping to the U.S. without causing a disruption for 2007. So nothing said contradicts a change for the 2008 MY. Hope to see "sunroof delete" buried somewhere in the order guide next spring. Let's hope so.
Also, hat's off to all of those that took a chance that the RS would not be affected and jumped on that list. You lucky dogs
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I am so happy...I am crying...this is the happiest day of my life, I think it supersedes my marriage as the happiest day ever.
It now offically goes TOP 5
1) No sunroof on GT3 RS
2) Marriage
3) This threesome I had with the two hottest girls ever
4) Buying the 996 GT3
5) Closing this really big deal that I did
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It now offically goes TOP 5
1) No sunroof on GT3 RS
2) Marriage
3) This threesome I had with the two hottest girls ever
4) Buying the 996 GT3
5) Closing this really big deal that I did