997.2 3RS- I should have never driven one…
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can't even imagine how that thing drives. I drove a stock 996 gt3 recently and was blown away with how awesome it was. In some ways, i like it better than my 997.2 GT3. The only downside for me is the looks but outside of that it's an amazing car and probably a much better value than a 997 GT3. had i driven one sooner, I would've likely bought one instead of mine.
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Posted these articles in the reviews section in the stickies. Very good GT3 vs GT3 RS reviews. Unfortunately don’t have the second part of the Chris Harris .1 article.
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can't even imagine how that thing drives. I drove a stock 996 gt3 recently and was blown away with how awesome it was. In some ways, i like it better than my 997.2 GT3. The only downside for me is the looks but outside of that it's an amazing car and probably a much better value than a 997 GT3. had i driven one sooner, I would've likely bought one instead of mine.
I will also add that I definitely made a mistake trying to save some money by keeping the stock 6th. I wish it was a touch longer for freeway cruising, so I'm going to go back in and replace that soon most likely. Should have done it all at once, but as you all know, these tranny builds can almost add up faster than the engine builds! May even spec a slightly taller first. It feels really short, especially now that I don't really need it given the additional hp and torque of the 3.9.
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Awesome to read about your first time experience. I like seeing peoples reactions to driving 997 gt cars.
I've owned a 997.1 GT3 and I currently own a 997.2 GT3 RS. In my opinion, if you're not an amazingly skilled driver, it will be very difficult to extract the difference in performance. I certainly do not have the skills and I probably do not drive hard enough to notice a significant difference in the two cars. That being said, I love my RS but if I know what I know now and I was in the market for a 997 car, I'd probably save the money and get a 997 GT3. Then, I'd use the money I'd save to get the LW Flywheel, upgrade the diff, pin coolant lines (if necessary), ect. to make the car as awesome as it can be.
I've owned a 997.1 GT3 and I currently own a 997.2 GT3 RS. In my opinion, if you're not an amazingly skilled driver, it will be very difficult to extract the difference in performance. I certainly do not have the skills and I probably do not drive hard enough to notice a significant difference in the two cars. That being said, I love my RS but if I know what I know now and I was in the market for a 997 car, I'd probably save the money and get a 997 GT3. Then, I'd use the money I'd save to get the LW Flywheel, upgrade the diff, pin coolant lines (if necessary), ect. to make the car as awesome as it can be.
For the price difference, there's not much value in the driving experience between the 997.2 GT3 vs RS. RS evokes emotion and has some incremental gains. Even for some tracks, I would bet gearing and extra aero may not make an RS always faster.
997.2 GT3 is subtle and elegant with narrow body. 997.2 3RS is a classic to me, best manual driver's car for feel, but mechanical chatter of LWFW makes it a poor daily.
There are no bad choices here.
I have been around 911 GT3 Cars since 2004, the local Porsche Club I belong to had the most 996.2 GT3 in North America, it was quite the site in Tremblant on the Race track!
I have owned and driven the 996.2 GT3 and 997.1 GT3.
I have driven a 997.1 GT3 RS and been in the Instructor Group but in the passenger seat of 997.2 GT3 RS and even the GT3 Cup Car, that was an amazing experience.
I love the RS and if I could afford one I would get the 997.1 RS, its not that much better then the 997.1 GT3 but it looks amazing and is sill a very good car to drive on the street and the track.
The 997.2 GT3 is a whole different animal. If I would consider a 997.2 GT3 I am 100% certain it would be a 997.2 GT3 not a 997.2 GT3 RS.
The 997.2 GT3 is a great street/track car. The 997.2 GT3 RS is a great Track Car, not a very good street car, its too Race Car like if that makes sense.
I have owned and driven the 996.2 GT3 and 997.1 GT3.
I have driven a 997.1 GT3 RS and been in the Instructor Group but in the passenger seat of 997.2 GT3 RS and even the GT3 Cup Car, that was an amazing experience.
I love the RS and if I could afford one I would get the 997.1 RS, its not that much better then the 997.1 GT3 but it looks amazing and is sill a very good car to drive on the street and the track.
The 997.2 GT3 is a whole different animal. If I would consider a 997.2 GT3 I am 100% certain it would be a 997.2 GT3 not a 997.2 GT3 RS.
The 997.2 GT3 is a great street/track car. The 997.2 GT3 RS is a great Track Car, not a very good street car, its too Race Car like if that makes sense.
Great stories guys. For me, the 997 GT3 is the perfect medium between performance and price. It’s hard to beat the current value of a 997 GT3. I have driven a 997 GT3 RS back to back with my 997 GT3 and the difference is hardly noticeable. They both share the same drivetrain and have the same HP. Also, my 997 GT3 has the single mass flywheel and the RS pulley. I love this car and it will go with me to the grave.
I got a twofer on my first 997 GT3 test drive.
I had been looking half heartedly at 997.2's when a nice one came up here on RL back in 2010. Before I knew it, someone jumped on it and bought it. I recognized the buyer was in the same city I was living in at the time so I PM'd him and asked for a ride when he got the car. Never even been in a GT3 to that point. When the car arrived, he reached out and said let's go for a drive. I knew in the first 5 mins the car was special. 15 mins later, we pulled over and he threw me the keys. A complete stranger I met on a Porsche board threw me the keys to his new 6 figure car. Slipped in the seat, twisted the key and that drive forever changed my life. I have been addicted to GT cars and particularly 997 GT cars ever since. The second part of the equation was that the owner and I became close friends and have shared driving experiences ever since. I owe you one @SSTHO . You've ruined me![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I had been looking half heartedly at 997.2's when a nice one came up here on RL back in 2010. Before I knew it, someone jumped on it and bought it. I recognized the buyer was in the same city I was living in at the time so I PM'd him and asked for a ride when he got the car. Never even been in a GT3 to that point. When the car arrived, he reached out and said let's go for a drive. I knew in the first 5 mins the car was special. 15 mins later, we pulled over and he threw me the keys. A complete stranger I met on a Porsche board threw me the keys to his new 6 figure car. Slipped in the seat, twisted the key and that drive forever changed my life. I have been addicted to GT cars and particularly 997 GT cars ever since. The second part of the equation was that the owner and I became close friends and have shared driving experiences ever since. I owe you one @SSTHO . You've ruined me
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3.89 R&P Install on 7.1 GT3
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for the folks discussing 3.89 R&P without 6th … I had just done a write up on it, chart and cost.
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for the folks discussing 3.89 R&P without 6th … I had just done a write up on it, chart and cost.
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3.89 R&P Install on 7.1 GT3
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...n-7-1-gt3.html
for the folks discussing 3.89 R&P without 6th … I had just done a write up on it, chart and cost.
@MKIVdan @jreifler @Vocan @JpCrp @RAudi Driver
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for the folks discussing 3.89 R&P without 6th … I had just done a write up on it, chart and cost.
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I can relate. I had a 997.2 C2S. Drove a 997.1 GT3 and the GT3 blew me away.
I haven’t driven an RS of any flavor, but maybe someone that has owned both a GT3 and RS can chime in, but if you want an RS, get an RS, but otherwise you should be able to get a large portion of the driving experience in a normal 997 GT3. I wouldn’t settle if I was you, but if you’re simply looking for that amazing driving experience, clutch, shifter, steering and sound, the normal GT3 will deliver.
When you’re ready to buy, the GT3 cars for sale thread is a great place to look. Or any of the reputable independent Porsche dealers.
I haven’t driven an RS of any flavor, but maybe someone that has owned both a GT3 and RS can chime in, but if you want an RS, get an RS, but otherwise you should be able to get a large portion of the driving experience in a normal 997 GT3. I wouldn’t settle if I was you, but if you’re simply looking for that amazing driving experience, clutch, shifter, steering and sound, the normal GT3 will deliver.
When you’re ready to buy, the GT3 cars for sale thread is a great place to look. Or any of the reputable independent Porsche dealers.
I was spoiled because the PCCB, the full leather smell, dynamic lights, back lit kick panel and fully adjustable sofa and Dundon headers, all made it feel very super car to me.
I have no doubt I’ll regret selling it when my elbow and my knee give out and my wanna be race car driver days are over.
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RS is RS, but with that being said many (not all) bought in when a 997.2 RS could be had for $120k to $160k all day long. I have a friend who picked one up in early COVID times for what I paid for my .1 non RS post-COVID. Do yourself a favor and don't look at older BaT results, it will make you ill ![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
I'm sure some would have still bought in at the current $300k+ asking prices but I suspect more than a handful may have gone a different direction.
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I'm sure some would have still bought in at the current $300k+ asking prices but I suspect more than a handful may have gone a different direction.
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You really don’t need it on the 997.1, but some say you may need it on the .2s.
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