View Poll Results: How did you fix the coolant lines failure issue?
I haven't done anything about it yet
25
42.37%
Engine out + replaced ALL hoses, elbows, and couplings
6
10.17%
Engine out + pinned, glued, or soldered lines and replaced damaged parts
26
44.07%
Pinned, glued, or soldered lines and replaced damaged parts without taking the engine out
2
3.39%
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Poll: How did you fix the coolant lines failure issue?
#1
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Poll: How did you fix the coolant lines failure issue?
The sticky on this is informative but different people seem to have addressed the issue differently and there is no way to quantify who has and who hasn't addressed the issue. I'm sorry for those to whom this is an old topic but there's still guys like me buying these cars with low miles and the issue unaddressed.
#2
I replied "Engine out + pinned, glued, or soldered lines and replaced damaged parts" because my shop didn't recommend replacing every hose such as in the kit below. However, engine came out. Lines were pinned. Elbows were replaced with Sharkwerks elbows and I trusted that my shop replace anything that they thought needed to be done. My car had it done around 24k miles. If I could do it again, I'd just replace every hose such as in the link below. But again, scope creep.
https://www.sharkwerks.com/engine/p2...-gt3-and-gt3rs
https://www.sharkwerks.com/engine/p2...-gt3-and-gt3rs
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Robocop305 (12-07-2022)
#5
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I replied "Engine out + pinned, glued, or soldered lines and replaced damaged parts" because my shop didn't recommend replacing every hose such as in the kit below. However, engine came out. Lines were pinned. Elbows were replaced with Sharkwerks elbows and I trusted that my shop replace anything that they thought needed to be done. My car had it done around 24k miles. If I could do it again, I'd just replace every hose such as in the link below. But again, scope creep.
https://www.sharkwerks.com/engine/p2...-gt3-and-gt3rs
https://www.sharkwerks.com/engine/p2...-gt3-and-gt3rs
#6
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The lines should be pinned or welded regardless of tracking the car or not. The coolant lines can fail at anytime, meaning on the freeway, when you drive it hard through the canyons, when you rip a few gears around town......... The last thing you need is for it to fail under those environments, and usually when it fails its a full dump of ALL the coolant.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
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Wilder (12-05-2022)
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Thank you guys. My car will be tracked and between reading the bulletin and watching a pileup on the ring, I have to address it before I start pushing the car. That said, thoughts on how to address it range from "pin without taking the engine out" to "engine out and replacing everything and also doing some "while I'm in there" items. I've been quoted from $1k for the most basic to $20k for the full gig. It'll be interesting to see the results once we get a larger sample.
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Clifton (12-07-2022)
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The lines should be pinned or welded regardless of tracking the car or not. The coolant lines can fail at anytime, meaning on the freeway, when you drive it hard through the canyons, when you rip a few gears around town......... The last thing you need is for it to fail under those environments, and usually when it fails its a full dump of ALL the coolant.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
For me this job really comes down to finding a shop you trust the quality of the work. You want to do this job once. if it means 1k or 10k it doesn't matter much if you think of the consequences. So I'd go with a shop you trust and their pricing. Worst case scenario is high price low quality. second worst case is low price low quality. I'd be optimizing for quality and not price. Lots of price difference has to do with location. In major metro areas this job will be more then sparse population areas. So it is really hard to compare prices across the country.
#9
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The lines should be pinned or welded regardless of tracking the car or not. The coolant lines can fail at anytime, meaning on the freeway, when you drive it hard through the canyons, when you rip a few gears around town......... The last thing you need is for it to fail under those environments, and usually when it fails its a full dump of ALL the coolant.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
I don't see how anyone would spend 200K on a car and risk it slipping under its own coolant and crashing because its just a Cars & Coffee car.
#10
I’d use the opportunity to drop the motor and do everything at once if you can. It also seems most shops will prefer to drop the motor. Better access to everything. If trying to DIY (which you’re not) then pinning in the car I think makes sense.
Since Sharkwerks is booking out till end of next summer, have you considered checking with BBI, GMG or Vollig Autowerks in San Diego. The latter my friends have used for suspension, but BBI and GMG has done coolant pinning.
Since Sharkwerks is booking out till end of next summer, have you considered checking with BBI, GMG or Vollig Autowerks in San Diego. The latter my friends have used for suspension, but BBI and GMG has done coolant pinning.
#11
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Agreed. My 997.1 TT left a puddle of coolant on the floor while parked. Less than 15k? miles. Car was still under warranty and pinning/welding wasn't common place at that time, so dealer just reglued the lines. My RS doesn't get driven as much, but I had the lines pinned and the elbows replaced with the Sharkwerks pieces.
I’d use the opportunity to drop the motor and do everything at once if you can. It also seems most shops will prefer to drop the motor. Better access to everything. If trying to DIY (which you’re not) then pinning in the car I think makes sense.
Since Sharkwerks is booking out till end of next summer, have you considered checking with BBI, GMG or Vollig Autowerks in San Diego. The latter my friends have used for suspension, but BBI and GMG has done coolant pinning.
Since Sharkwerks is booking out till end of next summer, have you considered checking with BBI, GMG or Vollig Autowerks in San Diego. The latter my friends have used for suspension, but BBI and GMG has done coolant pinning.
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Wilder (12-06-2022)
#13
For me this job really comes down to finding a shop you trust the quality of the work. You want to do this job once. if it means 1k or 10k it doesn't matter much if you think of the consequences. So I'd go with a shop you trust and their pricing. Worst case scenario is high price low quality. second worst case is low price low quality. I'd be optimizing for quality and not price. Lots of price difference has to do with location. In major metro areas this job will be more then sparse population areas. So it is really hard to compare prices across the country.
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#14
engine out - lines welded. SW elbow, new clutch.
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Wilder (12-07-2022)
#15
Engine out as well. Here is the step by step of my car getting it done at SW:
https://www.sharkwerks.com/2008-whit...-pipes-amp-fix
https://www.sharkwerks.com/2008-whit...-pipes-amp-fix