RallyeChris

THIS. From my vantage point, the pandemic has actually helped the already wealthy, and further beat-down the downtrodden. Many have experienced unexpected prosperity during the pandemic (unforeseen benefit to already existing product/service businesses), or those who have simply kept working but reduced spending due to lack of available activities. Excess money in the bank for both camps.

While I am personally grateful that both me and my wife are considered "essential" employees, I do fear for what may happen as society drifts further and further apart - both from a financial and cultural standpoint. Interesting times, indeed!

s65e90

I live next door! lol. Just wait until the moratoriums are lifted here as well and things with business start to get back to normal. It's scary, I drive past food lines, and yet we live in one of most expensive places around.

Burren

Let me introduce you to both the French revolution and the Russian revolution. The Have Nots may some day decide the Haves need to share. Hopefully common sense, human decency, and logic prevail, but we've all seen how the average American thinks and acts and decency, logic, and common sense aren't in their repertoire.

Anyway, back to discussing fun cars we all love and appreciate...

s65e90

They've kept people fat, mis-informed and thinking the enemy is their neighbor for too long. One can only hope people wake up.

Waxer

Thats called Socialism and Communism. Those that want to share imho have options. Relocate to one of their utopian countries.

s65e90

Most people are just looking for a fair shake, that's all. Not everything is immediately communism. The accelerated CEO wealth and amount of new billionaires in this country who provide little to no value is unsettling.

ranger22

Why? Someone becoming a billionaire has no impact on you. Their businesses may make your life better though.

s65e90

Their business have little impact on the direct quality of my life. We're going off the rails here. If you don't see the issue with income disparity growing at an exorbitant rate here, I'd suggest looking into it. I live in one of the highest taxed places in the land and drive past food lines longer than I'd ever think to see in surrounding neighborhoods. This didn't just start. It's been happening over many years, now accelerated no thanks due to the pandemic.

let's get back to P cars.

mdosu

As with the 997 GT3's, I think value will hold for a while at this point. .1 base will be where you can find a relative bargain. Base .1 GT3(s) may still depreciate over the next 6 years to maybe around the current 996.2 GT3 base pricing.

I get the sense, may GT owners can afford to hold on to numerous cars and elect to hold on to older GT cars, so peons like me tend to scrap and "overpay". I feel like out of all the GT3's out there, the 997.1 base and soon to be 991.1 GT3 are the ones typically elected to be released to make room.

For perspective first time buyers reading this, you'll need to go downmarket these days to get a value "GT" car. I'd recommend looking at a 991.1/2 GTS or 2016 GT4/Spyders. 991.1 GTS was at mid-$80s before covid, and for those cars, there's not enough specialness about the car for it to hold value. .2 GTS will likely depreciate harder IMO. 3.8 GT4's are really starting to hit the depreciation curve now. Of course, time will tell.

Waxer

Well I can tell you socialism/communism is not the answer nor is spreading $ through taxation.

Education and opportunity to achieve is the answer.

Plus no government handout program will enable you to afford a 997GT. Only education and hard work does that unless you inherit it.

If socialism is the answer maybe we should tell that to all the illegals crashing our border. They may turn around and head to Venezuela. Paradise.

s65e90

Get your mind off of thinking everything is a gov't handout rather than look at why there's so much disparity to begin with. The wealth gap has accelerated and continues to do so. Why is everything fall back to the gov't. Sure they don't help anybody or thing except their own special interest while giving you the illusion that you have a choice every 4 years. The average CEO makes @320 times that of their typical employee. No one is asking for equal $$, just more of a fair shake, as I've already stated before.

back to P cars.

Waxer

Then they can educate themselves, risk startup capital, deal with the plethora of business problems and become millionaires too. Maybe or maybe lose it all. There is no success without risk. You don’t want a lot risk be a W2 guy.

You don’t want risk you don’t get a piece of the pie. Simple.

You want the same as the other guy. Socialism and Communism is for you. Your leaders however will be the only rich ones. Ever notice that? Lol.

Is there a problem with Government and corporate collusion tipping the scales? Yes. It’s called corruption. The rot is through and through in DC.

s65e90

Jesus, you keep replying, but I don't think you're even reading. No one is SAYING EQUAL, just more of a FAIR SHAKE. Like is incredibly different now than it was years ago. Life is not measured in absolutes. Your arguments are based on main street media talking points

s65e90

let's go back to P cars.

mooty

wow...
get some coffee
skip work, work will be there when you return. I know I have not yet returned but they keep calling me and piling up ...
go drive the cars...
stop worrying, tmo you may very well die....
I got closer to dying at least 3x a year...
I don't worry about value, bc I don't think devil in hell care how much money I have or have not