Notices
997 GT2/GT3 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Porsche North Houston

Where is the throttle position sensor on the 997.1 GT3

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-15-2020, 04:44 PM
  #1  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default Where is the throttle position sensor on the 997.1 GT3

where is it physically located?

Wife wanted some wine on Friday. So we took the RS and whipped the crap out of it on the back roads all day, and got her some wine.

About 1/2 way there, I floor it and well, no go, like 1/4 power. Pull over. Stop car. Start car. All is good, and drove car several 100 miles since. No CEL/warnings on dash.

Yesterday got a chance to hook up durametric. Was a pending code for TPS in the ECU module. I'll post a screen shot later

Cleared it, and check actual values / range with the throttle and it seems to be working as intended.

That said, I had my battery DIE DIE DIE a couple months back and had a bunch of 'phantom' codes in nearly all modules. So cleared all those out. None have reappeared.

My gas pedal is new in the car. MAF new. All plugs/coils are new.
Old 06-15-2020, 07:22 PM
  #2  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default


Old 06-15-2020, 08:25 PM
  #3  
Fisher
Pro
 
Fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 516
Received 69 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Spyerx, long time since we drove the canyons together.
"My gas pedal is new in the car."
You've likely checked it already, but I would begin at the gas pedal.
Disconnect and clean all mechanical and electrical connections.
Check the pedal output for linearity (DVM).
Interested in what you find.
Old 06-15-2020, 10:33 PM
  #4  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by grizfish
Spyerx, long time since we drove the canyons together.
"My gas pedal is new in the car."
You've likely checked it already, but I would begin at the gas pedal.
Disconnect and clean all mechanical and electrical connections.
Check the pedal output for linearity (DVM).
Interested in what you find.
yes need more antique canyon time!
the pedal on these is basically a potentiometer. There isn’t anything mechanical. Via the durameteic i plotted the pedal position and throttle position And they move in sync. This was with car off. Car on i can’t really do same test. It it’s linear pedal to throttle.
Old 06-18-2020, 11:27 AM
  #5  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default

Bueller? Anyone?
Old 06-18-2020, 12:49 PM
  #6  
Bxstr
Rennlist Member
 
Bxstr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 0
Received 3,150 Likes on 2,154 Posts
Default

I looked through all of the parts diagrams the other night and couldn’t even find the part for the throttle position sensor. Everything I found said it should be on the throttle body itself?
Old 06-18-2020, 04:18 PM
  #7  
Fisher
Pro
 
Fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 516
Received 69 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bxstr
I looked through all of the parts diagrams the other night and couldn’t even find the part for the throttle position sensor. Everything I found said it should be on the throttle body itself?
Thanks! If that's the case, then there 'could' be some problem between the new foot pedal and the (assumed to be good} throttle body.
Old 06-18-2020, 06:10 PM
  #8  
Protocav
Rennlist Member
 
Protocav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SD, CA
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

It's right where the throttle cable meets the throttle body.
Old 06-22-2020, 01:41 AM
  #9  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bxstr
I looked through all of the parts diagrams the other night and couldn’t even find the part for the throttle position sensor. Everything I found said it should be on the throttle body itself?
Originally Posted by Protocav
It's right where the throttle cable meets the throttle body.
Are you fking w me? These have a cable?
i think it is on the throttle body if not part of

anyway the error didn’t come back after several 100 miles. I think a glitch

Old 06-22-2020, 10:23 AM
  #10  
Tom@TPC Racing
Premium Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Tom@TPC Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Jessup, MD
Posts: 3,414
Received 962 Likes on 532 Posts
Default

The gas pedal is the "demand" pedal, often data equipment(AIM. MoTec, Racelogic...) show TPS value from the demand side. The "actual" TPS is in the throttle body assembly.
__________________
PCA National Instructor

TPC Racing stats:
2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup Am Champion
2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge GT4 Pro-Am Team Champion
2022 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup & 991 Cup Champion
2020 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2018 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2016 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2013 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2006 Rolex-24 @ Daytona GT Champion
2004 Grand-Am SGS Class Champion





















Old 06-22-2020, 10:38 AM
  #11  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tom@TPC Racing
The gas pedal is the "demand" pedal, often data equipment(AIM. MoTec, Racelogic...) show TPS value from the demand side. The "actual" TPS is in the throttle body assembly.
so I’ll need to hook up durametric again and check, but i think it can show both pedal and throttle position? I do recall selecting at least a couple indicators and graphing them and they seemed to move in sync with the pedal

anyway, any thoughts on the stored code? It did not throw a cel, and it has not come back after restarting the car and several 100 miles.
Old 06-22-2020, 11:45 AM
  #12  
Protocav
Rennlist Member
 
Protocav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SD, CA
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spyerx
Are you fking w me?
Definitely fking with you
Old 06-22-2020, 12:12 PM
  #13  
MJSpeed
The Rebel
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
MJSpeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,390
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

TPS is definitely on the TB itself. Make sure TB is clean, MAF is working properly, check all connections to both and of course check the demand pedal as well.

Why did you replace the pedal?
Old 06-22-2020, 05:51 PM
  #14  
Tom@TPC Racing
Premium Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Tom@TPC Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Jessup, MD
Posts: 3,414
Received 962 Likes on 532 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spyerx
so I’ll need to hook up durametric again and check, but i think it can show both pedal and throttle position? I do recall selecting at least a couple indicators and graphing them and they seemed to move in sync with the pedal

anyway, any thoughts on the stored code? It did not throw a cel, and it has not come back after restarting the car and several 100 miles.
If Dura show both values you can check to see if they are same. The code might just a single occurrence if the throttle plate motor was stuck(i.e. from carbon build up) causing a differential in the two values. If it was a single occurrence key off would exit the limp mode.
Old 06-22-2020, 07:34 PM
  #15  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,662
Received 1,827 Likes on 1,112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Protocav
Definitely fking with you
i know your game. I will disappoint you tho in that my 71 motor will have a throttle cable we aren’t going to do e gas.

Originally Posted by MJSpeed
TPS is definitely on the TB itself. Make sure TB is clean, MAF is working properly, check all connections to both and of course check the demand pedal as well.
Why did you replace the pedal?
i broke it :-) more gas less brake.
the Spring or lever mechanism on the back wasn’t retaining and pedal was popping forward. It worked Fine (the potentiometer)but action was off.

Originally Posted by Tom@TPC Racing
If Dura show both values you can check to see if they are same. The code might just a single occurrence if the throttle plate motor was stuck(i.e. from carbon build up) causing a differential in the two values. If it was a single occurrence key off would exit the limp mode.
Ill take off the air filter assembly and poke around. The maf is newer.
will spray down the throttle body.
i cleaned it not too long ago and it wasn’t very dirty. I change air filters often and use factory filters not oiled type.


Quick Reply: Where is the throttle position sensor on the 997.1 GT3



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:14 AM.