From 997 GT3 --> 991 T (not touring)
06-07-2018, 11:39 AM
#16
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Exactly how much are they paying you to do this??? 
In and of itself the Carrera T is an interesting car for its price. But not the same thing as your 7-3 (nor does it aspire to be).
In and of itself the Carrera T is an interesting car for its price. But not the same thing as your 7-3 (nor does it aspire to be).
06-07-2018, 01:13 PM
#18
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What is the alcohol content in Belgium beers these days?
You have an amazing GT3 keep it. If you want a 911 you can enjoy there are plenty of low cost options from 996 4S, 997S, even early 991s.
06-07-2018, 01:37 PM
#19
Please don't
06-07-2018, 09:25 PM
#20
Nordschleife Master
GT3s have ruined me for any other Carrera variants....
06-07-2018, 10:04 PM
#22
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06-08-2018, 04:25 AM
#23
Never!!
06-08-2018, 07:28 AM
#24
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Hi guys,
A little more information as requested.
I only use the car for special occasions, a few track days and spirited drives when the weather is Good.
In the meantime I did a test drive with the T and It’s a cool car
Feels a little more nimble and special than a normal Carrera
although it’s a cool car I’m sure that I will very quickly get bored.
Also, not so sure it will keep it’s value as a Gt3 does.
Cheers
A little more information as requested.
I only use the car for special occasions, a few track days and spirited drives when the weather is Good.
In the meantime I did a test drive with the T and It’s a cool car
Feels a little more nimble and special than a normal Carrera
although it’s a cool car I’m sure that I will very quickly get bored.
Also, not so sure it will keep it’s value as a Gt3 does.
Cheers
06-08-2018, 07:47 AM
#25
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The either/or question is hard because they are such different animals. It's a question of utility vs visceral/emotional experience. If you don't need the extra utility, 997.1 gt3 is probably the best thrill/$ that can be bought. But there is something to be said for having one car that gives you just enough utility to use it in most scenarios and get more miles of enjoyment as a result (I'm not talking SUV utility; I'm talking toy utility). But I tend to look at those cars as somewhat "consumables" and churn thru them. My "keepers" are all high on visceral/emotional/masochist driving experience and almost zero regard for utility.
I have a 981 spyder that i park on the street in London outside my house. Dirty, wheels curbed, rock chips (I assume, idk?) and dog hair to name a few. That car is EASY to drive; the easiest manual I've ever driven with plenty of creature comforts, technology, etc. It's an amazing modern car. I hopped in it and rushed through London during rush hour traffic to meet up with PCGB for an organized drive/dinner (while taking 2 conference calls on the way). Other than the open top, every other car I have is more emotional (including a 997.1rs that is safely tucked away in a cushy garage 10-15min from my house). Getting thru London at 6pm with google maps rerouting every other block is insane. It's different than being stuck on a 6 lane parking lot in the US but it's equally "challenging". I would have either not gone at all, turned around or blown my brains out in any other of my toys I owned. In the spyder, that easy manual, Bluetooth handsfree, and ballerina-like handling, darting thru traffic and around potholes in London rush-hour traffic was almost fun.
Once I was out on an English countryside road, or meeting the PCGB locals, would I have preferred to be in a CGT or even my 997.1rs frogger right down the street?......YES. But ZERO doubt it would have been the last time I tried to brave central London at 6pm to make a 7pm drive up north. So, sometimes utility is worth it.
I have a 981 spyder that i park on the street in London outside my house. Dirty, wheels curbed, rock chips (I assume, idk?) and dog hair to name a few. That car is EASY to drive; the easiest manual I've ever driven with plenty of creature comforts, technology, etc. It's an amazing modern car. I hopped in it and rushed through London during rush hour traffic to meet up with PCGB for an organized drive/dinner (while taking 2 conference calls on the way). Other than the open top, every other car I have is more emotional (including a 997.1rs that is safely tucked away in a cushy garage 10-15min from my house). Getting thru London at 6pm with google maps rerouting every other block is insane. It's different than being stuck on a 6 lane parking lot in the US but it's equally "challenging". I would have either not gone at all, turned around or blown my brains out in any other of my toys I owned. In the spyder, that easy manual, Bluetooth handsfree, and ballerina-like handling, darting thru traffic and around potholes in London rush-hour traffic was almost fun.
Once I was out on an English countryside road, or meeting the PCGB locals, would I have preferred to be in a CGT or even my 997.1rs frogger right down the street?......YES. But ZERO doubt it would have been the last time I tried to brave central London at 6pm to make a 7pm drive up north. So, sometimes utility is worth it.
06-08-2018, 11:50 AM
#26
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I've been all over the map on this. I'm currently mid-hunt on a nice GT car but every now and again I get tempted to "date" a 991. And there's LOTS to like about these cars. Recently there was a beautiful 991.2 C4 in Silver / Red-black with a MT. Beautiful. So eye watering tempting. And they're bristling with technology that we should all "love" but every time I drive them I feel slightly let down by the overall experience. There's something that's just a little TOO nice, to comfortable, to contrived, too perfect per say and not visceral enough for me. I've also recently spec'd out a 991.2T but I doubt I'll ever pull the trigger. And this is coming from owning 3 fairly "new" Porsches - the two Macans and the 981 Cayman.
My advice? Beg, borrow, steal or rent a 991 for a couple weeks and get a semi-long term feel for the car. Then go back to your GT3 and see which one lights you up. Keep your own counsel. No one except yourself in the long run will rip you for your decision.
Let us know what you find.
My advice? Beg, borrow, steal or rent a 991 for a couple weeks and get a semi-long term feel for the car. Then go back to your GT3 and see which one lights you up. Keep your own counsel. No one except yourself in the long run will rip you for your decision.
Let us know what you find.
06-08-2018, 01:38 PM
#27
06-10-2018, 02:45 PM
#28
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Carrera T
Pros:
Pretty quick with its turbo torque, modern chassis and tires
Modern convenience features for daily driving
New car warranty
Won’t feel guilty at all about heavy daily use
Cons:
Not as visceral as your GT3
Normal car depreciation
Not as “special” an ownership experience
Pros:
Pretty quick with its turbo torque, modern chassis and tires
Modern convenience features for daily driving
New car warranty
Won’t feel guilty at all about heavy daily use
Cons:
Not as visceral as your GT3
Normal car depreciation
Not as “special” an ownership experience
06-16-2018, 02:07 AM
#30
GT3 player par excellence
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take 3 horus of early morning
drive it slow to coffee and have a latte and muffin
then get out to open road with no destination or purpose other than burning petro
after that, the answer will be crystal clear
drive it slow to coffee and have a latte and muffin
then get out to open road with no destination or purpose other than burning petro
after that, the answer will be crystal clear