Prices continue to be strong for 7.1 GT3s
11-29-2017, 12:47 PM
#46
Pro
not back dated. It' the one in my avatar. Factory non sunroof ice green car. Coffin seats . Every wevo part and rennline valve covers. Arp bolts in engine. New ssi and dansk. Nothing crazy just a solid fast (keeps up with or faster then a few 997 c4s I drive with) car. Sc flairs. Fuchs 7x16 8x16. Re11s. Can kick it up for 500km drives and dosent miss a beat. But the gt3 has stolen all my time. So it sits now. Just writing this makes me want to drive it tho. Lol
11-29-2017, 07:52 PM
#47
No interest in the 991.1. Based on the high numbers built and the issues with the engine - would anticipate futhrer decline in value.
11-29-2017, 07:55 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
Finalized my deal today; the good news is $157,050.MSRP; trade in $91,000. on my 2014 GT3 with 23,000. miles (7K track) YIKES.
Showed me lots of data on dealer wholesale prices on my car at $83,000. There are 247 .1's for sale from $115K to MSRP on CarsGuru alone
Showed me lots of data on dealer wholesale prices on my car at $83,000. There are 247 .1's for sale from $115K to MSRP on CarsGuru alone
12-07-2017, 06:39 PM
#49
Drifting
12-08-2017, 01:30 PM
#50
Burning Brakes
Agree. I have driven all variants and the 997.1 is my favorite, just pure fun to drive. My hope is to own a 997.1 GT3 for a long time.
12-08-2017, 04:08 PM
#51
Rennlist Member
So, what do I like most about the 997.1 GT3? The simple, clean styling, the free-revving and near-bulletproof Mezger engine, the sound, the rifle-bolt shifter, the relatively compact size, the ease of general maintenance, the cornering and acceleration, the interior comfort and ergonomics and it's relative affordability. Bang for the buck, if you will. For the money, there is just no other car out there that I would rather have.
12-08-2017, 05:25 PM
#52
[QUOTE=jackb911;14657439]I've had mine five years now, street only, no track. Almost sold it twice but eventually I came to my senses and decided to hang onto it indefinitely. It's future value is a non-issue for me. This is the first non-air cooled Porsche I've kept for more than a relatively short period of time and while it is not nearly as raw as, say, a 3.2 Carrera, the 997.1 GT3 does a pretty darn good job of capturing (and exceeding) the essence of what what was so mesmerizing about those wonderful luftgekühlt Porsches. I cannot say that about a modern non-GT Porsche.
So, what do I like most about the 997.1 GT3? The simple, clean styling, the free-revving and near-bulletproof Mezger engine, the sound, the rifle-bolt shifter, the relatively compact size, the ease of general maintenance, the cornering and acceleration, the interior comfort and ergonomics and it's relative affordability. Bang for the buck, if you will. For the money, there is just no other car out there that I would rather have.
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I agree with what you say. There is just another car I would say that fits the "bang for the buck" category, and that is a 997 Turbo Manual which shares a Mezger too. For $70k you can get a garage queen with enough torque to pull your eyeballs out, you get the idea.
So, what do I like most about the 997.1 GT3? The simple, clean styling, the free-revving and near-bulletproof Mezger engine, the sound, the rifle-bolt shifter, the relatively compact size, the ease of general maintenance, the cornering and acceleration, the interior comfort and ergonomics and it's relative affordability. Bang for the buck, if you will. For the money, there is just no other car out there that I would rather have.
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I agree with what you say. There is just another car I would say that fits the "bang for the buck" category, and that is a 997 Turbo Manual which shares a Mezger too. For $70k you can get a garage queen with enough torque to pull your eyeballs out, you get the idea.
12-08-2017, 06:24 PM
#53
Interesting point there thxbuff.
If you're into max acceleration, the Turbo will take you there.
But, the GT3 has the instantaneous pedal response of the naturally aspirated Mezger and an added 1800 rpm to red-line.
That....... is a huge part of the experience.
If you're into max acceleration, the Turbo will take you there.
But, the GT3 has the instantaneous pedal response of the naturally aspirated Mezger and an added 1800 rpm to red-line.
That....... is a huge part of the experience.
12-08-2017, 08:06 PM
#54
You would not believe the experience. A GT3 and a TT are different animals.
But you cannot do 60 mph to 80 mph on 6th gear in 1 sec for a GT3, not even my RS.
12-09-2017, 01:32 PM
#56
Racer
Prices for 997 GT3's continue to be supported by unscrupulous dealers asking 20K+ over MSRP on 991.2 GT3.
I'm in the running for a 991.2 GT3 @ my dealer, assuming I was willing to pay them the 20K over ask they are looking for, with my relatively meager config and sales tax I would be well over 230K CAD... by contrast a relatively low mile and well cared for 997.1 GT3 for 130K CAD represents a bit of a bargain IMO.
I'm in the running for a 991.2 GT3 @ my dealer, assuming I was willing to pay them the 20K over ask they are looking for, with my relatively meager config and sales tax I would be well over 230K CAD... by contrast a relatively low mile and well cared for 997.1 GT3 for 130K CAD represents a bit of a bargain IMO.
12-09-2017, 04:10 PM
#57
Burning Brakes
12-10-2017, 07:04 PM
#59
Rennlist Member
A bit of an emotional subject. However, everyone wants to think their cars are going strong with resale value and the truth is that the lower production numbers make it difficult, at best, to determine a trend. Harder still with a datapoint of one, as stated in the original post.
The truth of the matter is that any real increase in value won't happen for another decade or two and the drivers for that are not going to be easy to determine. The sudden rise in the air-cooled cars was probably fueled by Boomers and Generation Xs that finally accrued sizable wealth, then it became a trend.
Go to the 996 GT3 board and they will try to convince you that these cars will suddenly jump in price because they are the last of the true raw GT cars. The 997 board will tell you the same precisely for the same reason when compared to the 991. Wait five years and see what the 991 board says.
Every generation of the GT cars are special and each newer generation gives something better to the market as far as performance goes. You can't knock that. People find their own level based on their available capital and personal preferences and dig deep to justify their position by what are really trivial differences in the marque when you think about it. They are all Porsches and every turn of the wheel improves performance, which is the only real reason Porsche can offer to trade up.
Maybe in twenty years my GT3 will be worth something, but I'm not holding on to it as part of an investment portfolio, so with 127K on the clock I am just driving the hell out of it. That's what Porsche intended for it.
The truth of the matter is that any real increase in value won't happen for another decade or two and the drivers for that are not going to be easy to determine. The sudden rise in the air-cooled cars was probably fueled by Boomers and Generation Xs that finally accrued sizable wealth, then it became a trend.
Go to the 996 GT3 board and they will try to convince you that these cars will suddenly jump in price because they are the last of the true raw GT cars. The 997 board will tell you the same precisely for the same reason when compared to the 991. Wait five years and see what the 991 board says.
Every generation of the GT cars are special and each newer generation gives something better to the market as far as performance goes. You can't knock that. People find their own level based on their available capital and personal preferences and dig deep to justify their position by what are really trivial differences in the marque when you think about it. They are all Porsches and every turn of the wheel improves performance, which is the only real reason Porsche can offer to trade up.
Maybe in twenty years my GT3 will be worth something, but I'm not holding on to it as part of an investment portfolio, so with 127K on the clock I am just driving the hell out of it. That's what Porsche intended for it.
12-10-2017, 08:01 PM
#60
Pro
A bit of an emotional subject. However, everyone wants to think their cars are going strong with resale value and the truth is that the lower production numbers make it difficult, at best, to determine a trend. Harder still with a datapoint of one, as stated in the original post.
The truth of the matter is that any real increase in value won't happen for another decade or two and the drivers for that are not going to be easy to determine. The sudden rise in the air-cooled cars was probably fueled by Boomers and Generation Xs that finally accrued sizable wealth, then it became a trend.
Go to the 996 GT3 board and they will try to convince you that these cars will suddenly jump in price because they are the last of the true raw GT cars. The 997 board will tell you the same precisely for the same reason when compared to the 991. Wait five years and see what the 991 board says.
Every generation of the GT cars are special and each newer generation gives something better to the market as far as performance goes. You can't knock that. People find their own level based on their available capital and personal preferences and dig deep to justify their position by what are really trivial differences in the marque when you think about it. They are all Porsches and every turn of the wheel improves performance, which is the only real reason Porsche can offer to trade up.
Maybe in twenty years my GT3 will be worth something, but I'm not holding on to it as part of an investment portfolio, so with 127K on the clock I am just driving the hell out of it. That's what Porsche intended for it.
The truth of the matter is that any real increase in value won't happen for another decade or two and the drivers for that are not going to be easy to determine. The sudden rise in the air-cooled cars was probably fueled by Boomers and Generation Xs that finally accrued sizable wealth, then it became a trend.
Go to the 996 GT3 board and they will try to convince you that these cars will suddenly jump in price because they are the last of the true raw GT cars. The 997 board will tell you the same precisely for the same reason when compared to the 991. Wait five years and see what the 991 board says.
Every generation of the GT cars are special and each newer generation gives something better to the market as far as performance goes. You can't knock that. People find their own level based on their available capital and personal preferences and dig deep to justify their position by what are really trivial differences in the marque when you think about it. They are all Porsches and every turn of the wheel improves performance, which is the only real reason Porsche can offer to trade up.
Maybe in twenty years my GT3 will be worth something, but I'm not holding on to it as part of an investment portfolio, so with 127K on the clock I am just driving the hell out of it. That's what Porsche intended for it.