New rear tire failure, need advice on replacement
#18
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#19
Drifting
Blaine 997 - Good for you for getting you new shoes.
Ship does happen, get your new tires on and feel the rush of new tires.
Report back , how great they are.
Check the manufacturing date on your new tire as a precaution.
Ship does happen, get your new tires on and feel the rush of new tires.
Report back , how great they are.
Check the manufacturing date on your new tire as a precaution.
#20
I just ordered Bridgestone S-04's from Costco based on the positive reviews here. Going to get them mounted next week. They also carry Michelin PS4S. I chose Costco because their tire warranty is excellent.
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#23
Instructor
Thread Starter
I picked up my car with the new Pilot Sports on today. It has way more cornering grip and feels great.
I checked the date codes on the "new" Khumos that were installed by the selling Audi dealer. 2513 means the 25th week of 2013. Lesson learned, when buying a car without seeing it in person ask for photos of the DOT numbers, not just the tread depth.
The PPI said non-Porsche approved tires. I thought they were okay as I had driven a friend's 996 with Khumos on it and he had no problems.
The other 3 tires were coded the same and had no signs of a similar failure.
I checked the date codes on the "new" Khumos that were installed by the selling Audi dealer. 2513 means the 25th week of 2013. Lesson learned, when buying a car without seeing it in person ask for photos of the DOT numbers, not just the tread depth.
The PPI said non-Porsche approved tires. I thought they were okay as I had driven a friend's 996 with Khumos on it and he had no problems.
The other 3 tires were coded the same and had no signs of a similar failure.
#24
Nordschleife Master
I picked up my car with the new Pilot Sports on today. It has way more cornering grip and feels great.
I checked the date codes on the "new" Khumos that were installed by the selling Audi dealer. 2513 means the 25th week of 2013. Lesson learned, when buying a car without seeing it in person ask for photos of the DOT numbers, not just the tread depth. ...
I checked the date codes on the "new" Khumos that were installed by the selling Audi dealer. 2513 means the 25th week of 2013. Lesson learned, when buying a car without seeing it in person ask for photos of the DOT numbers, not just the tread depth. ...
Which Michelin did you get?
Pilot Sport 2
Pilot Super Sport
Pilot Sport 4S
#25
Instructor
Thread Starter
While I agree that a 3-4 year old tire should not be a problem on any car, I do have a problem with the dealer claiming they were new. Unused would have been more accurate. I've had tires "age out" on my 63 Impala way before the tread was gone and I needed to replace them for safety sake. This mainly is a function of living in the mountains where clean, cinder and salt free roads normally only occur from late April-November. So when I was paying for a car advertised with new tires, I would expect them to be +/- a year old and would have years upwards of 10 years to wear the tread out. Not already be aged 40% of the time it usually takes for dry rot to set in......
I went with the Pilot Sport 2. I have them on aftermarket 19" rims on my Mazda 6 DD for the spring to fall seasons and am very pleased with them, so I chose them for the 911 as well. Already I noticed improved cornering on the back roads near my home and better highway ride on the drive home from the dealer today.
I went with the Pilot Sport 2. I have them on aftermarket 19" rims on my Mazda 6 DD for the spring to fall seasons and am very pleased with them, so I chose them for the 911 as well. Already I noticed improved cornering on the back roads near my home and better highway ride on the drive home from the dealer today.
#26
Nordschleife Master
While I agree that a 3-4 year old tire should not be a problem on any car, I do have a problem with the dealer claiming they were new. Unused would have been more accurate. I've had tires "age out" on my 63 Impala way before the tread was gone and I needed to replace them for safety sake. This mainly is a function of living in the mountains where clean, cinder and salt free roads normally only occur from late April-November. So when I was paying for a car advertised with new tires, I would expect them to be +/- a year old and would have years upwards of 10 years to wear the tread out. Not already be aged 40% of the time it usually takes for dry rot to set in......
I went with the Pilot Sport 2. I have them on aftermarket 19" rims on my Mazda 6 DD for the spring to fall seasons and am very pleased with them, so I chose them for the 911 as well. Already I noticed improved cornering on the back roads near my home and better highway ride on the drive home from the dealer today.
I went with the Pilot Sport 2. I have them on aftermarket 19" rims on my Mazda 6 DD for the spring to fall seasons and am very pleased with them, so I chose them for the 911 as well. Already I noticed improved cornering on the back roads near my home and better highway ride on the drive home from the dealer today.
I am not arguing against you. You are right, you should have gotten recent production tires. What I said was that the extra grip you felt in your Michelins is because they truly are great tires. And now I am not questioning why you should have gone PSS or PS4 instead of PS2 or asking if your PS2 are N-rated or not.
#27
Poseur
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If I bought a used Porsche and there were Korean tires on it that would be the first thing to go. Makes you wonder what other things were compromised on that car. That's just being cheap. I have two different types of tires on my Porsche 997S wheels today. Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Bridgestone Potenza S-04s. M rated tires were created for a reason. Most non N tires are a compromise, because buyers don't figure they don't need a performance tire for their p-cars in America. Not true.
#28
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If I bought a used Porsche and there were Korean tires on it that would be the first thing to go. Makes you wonder what other things were compromised on that car. That's just being cheap. I have two different types of tires on my Porsche 997S wheels today. Michelin Pilot Super Sport and Bridgestone Potenza S-04s. M rated tires were created for a reason. Most non N tires are a compromise, because buyers don't figure they don't need a performance tire for their p-cars in America. Not true.
depending on intended use of the car, some korean, japanese, or otherwise non oem (even non n0 n1 'porsche tested' tires) work very well and deliver years of excellent functionality and cost savings to a judicious owner
most folks earn their money and strive to get the most out of their 'car' budgets, and there are plenty of performance tires for a 997 other than mpss or s04 (which in and of itself is a budget performance tire introduced by bridgestone after their premium/oem line of re 050's) that are terrific tires that really don't compromise much of anything
in fact the the current MPSS is not an N rated tire... another example... new Bridgestone RE71 is a terrific, high value 'extreme performance'/track tire that is as fast or faster than an N1 MPS Cup 2... it is no N rating... used by many many capable trackers
but as with all things in this hobby/pursuit, we should all do what we need to feel good about ourselves and sleep soundly...