991 Style Projector LED Headlights for 997 - Product Tear Down and Review - Pic Heavy
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Great write up, the finished product looks awesome.
It's still a shame they showed up in that condition. I used to deal with Spyder Auto from a retail standpoint and always had quality control issues.
It's still a shame they showed up in that condition. I used to deal with Spyder Auto from a retail standpoint and always had quality control issues.
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@EMC2 Can you take some output photos of these Spyder headlights? Ideally find a large white wall where you can park your car 25ft away with the headlights projecting on the wall to show the beam pattern. Pictures of both low and high beams would be great.
I ask since most aftermarket headlights, although they can look "cool," the reality is the HID projectors and light output is a normally a huge step backwards. The OEM 997 HID headlights are great from the factory with their Denso ballasts and Koito bi-xenon projectors, there is little to improve on.
What are your thoughts on the performance/output of the headlights?
Evan
I ask since most aftermarket headlights, although they can look "cool," the reality is the HID projectors and light output is a normally a huge step backwards. The OEM 997 HID headlights are great from the factory with their Denso ballasts and Koito bi-xenon projectors, there is little to improve on.
What are your thoughts on the performance/output of the headlights?
Evan
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@EMC2 Can you take some output photos of these Spyder headlights? Ideally find a large white wall where you can park your car 25ft away with the headlights projecting on the wall to show the beam pattern. Pictures of both low and high beams would be great.
I ask since most aftermarket headlights, although they can look "cool," the reality is the HID projectors and light output is a normally a huge step backwards. The OEM 997 HID headlights are great from the factory with their Denso ballasts and Koito bi-xenon projectors, there is little to improve on.
What are your thoughts on the performance/output of the headlights?
Evan
I ask since most aftermarket headlights, although they can look "cool," the reality is the HID projectors and light output is a normally a huge step backwards. The OEM 997 HID headlights are great from the factory with their Denso ballasts and Koito bi-xenon projectors, there is little to improve on.
What are your thoughts on the performance/output of the headlights?
Evan
When I first installed them I actually put one side in first as an initial test. The projection on the garage (albeit only a few feet away) door looked similar in intensity and distribution between the two sides. The only real difference is the Spyder lights have a sharper cutoff line at the top, so I had to do some adjustments to the beam throw to get them right. Unfortunately I did not take pics of this.
I would really need to put an OEM housing back in one side to be able to show a meaningful comparison between the two. I can try and get a pic of the Spyder projection one night.
The Spyder's reuse the OEM ballast, motor and low beam bulb, but I have no idea what brand the projector lens is. I'd say that the lights perform vey close to OEM on low beam and on high beam. Just a real pity about the overall build quality and lack of quality control.
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Thanks.
This is my next project (phase 2). Over winter I plan to make some further changes as I've also discovered that the headlight leveling does not work correctly. It tends to overshoot when trying to auto level.
It doesn't really affect your view as a driver, but a friend I was following one night recently , brought it to my attention. Upon further checking I realized the problem may be with the weighting of the internal lens assembly (either too light or weighted in the wrong place)
Still need more time to confirm exactly how to address.
This is my next project (phase 2). Over winter I plan to make some further changes as I've also discovered that the headlight leveling does not work correctly. It tends to overshoot when trying to auto level.
It doesn't really affect your view as a driver, but a friend I was following one night recently , brought it to my attention. Upon further checking I realized the problem may be with the weighting of the internal lens assembly (either too light or weighted in the wrong place)
Still need more time to confirm exactly how to address.
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Originally Posted by Carlos Diaz
Hi, Do you have images of the projectors and the bracketry when you opened the headlights?
Originally Posted by cringely
Went to the Spyder website, but couldn't find any pricing info or links. What did these cost? Any additional costs for your installation?
If you're planning to fix the quality defects you'll at least need paint and a roll of the sealant as referenced in the thread.
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It looks like I am late to this thread. I've found a few places online that sell these in two different configs, Xenon/HID or Halogen.
However, all the listings I have seen indicate they don't work with Leveling lights. My 08 997 C4S Cab has Bi Xenon with Leveling.
Anyone know if there is a version of these headlights available for the 997 with my light package. Would love to add the Ring.
However, all the listings I have seen indicate they don't work with Leveling lights. My 08 997 C4S Cab has Bi Xenon with Leveling.
Anyone know if there is a version of these headlights available for the 997 with my light package. Would love to add the Ring.
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If you have the bi-xenon lights with DCL (dynamic cornering) I do not think you will find an aftermarket 991 style headlight to support that functionality.
The aftermarket lights like the ones reviewed in this thread do support vertical leveling on the 997.2 and I believe also on the 997.1, but not horizontal adjustment (dynamic cornering).
The aftermarket lights like the ones reviewed in this thread do support vertical leveling on the 997.2 and I believe also on the 997.1, but not horizontal adjustment (dynamic cornering).
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If you have the bi-xenon lights with DCL (dynamic cornering) I do not think you will find an aftermarket 991 style headlight to support that functionality.
The aftermarket lights like the ones reviewed in this thread do support vertical leveling on the 997.2 and I believe also on the 997.1, but not horizontal adjustment (dynamic cornering).
The aftermarket lights like the ones reviewed in this thread do support vertical leveling on the 997.2 and I believe also on the 997.1, but not horizontal adjustment (dynamic cornering).
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Glad to have put the purchase of these on hold. I need a headlight since my right side one has a defect within the glass and would hate to spend $1200 and receive these headlights with quality defects.
At that price, one shouldn't have to take it apart and rebuild it correctly.
So I guess I'll just buy one new factory headlight.
Thanks.
At that price, one shouldn't have to take it apart and rebuild it correctly.
So I guess I'll just buy one new factory headlight.
Thanks.
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Steph. You could also check out eBay. From time to time some like new parts will show up.