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Old 05-16-2016, 02:12 PM
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The 997 really put it all back together nicely. Time will tell how well with the intro of the 991..and possibly accelerated it with the intro of no more NA on 991's.
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I guess I am in the minority, too: I had a '95 993 and I thought it was great but not as good looking as the 964. I still think the 964 is when Porsche got it right. And the debate goes on...
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Originally Posted by Para82
The 997 is when Porsche got it all just right.
After Porsche learned well from the 996... Think about it!
Old 05-16-2016, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyV44
Maybe after the 991 Porsche will build a throwback to the 997….I hope!

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Why would Porsche ever go backwards?
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Originally Posted by Dennis C
I think the 996 and the 993 look great. They are all different, but I'd be happy and proud to own any of them.
Old 05-16-2016, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleNutz
Why would Porsche ever go backwards?
I don't consider the 997 a backwards step even though it resembles the 993. Why couldn't they make that move again after the 991 mistake.

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Old 05-16-2016, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyV44
I don't consider the 997 a backwards step even though it resembles the 993. Why couldn't they make that move again after the 991 mistake.

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LMAO...C'mon get over it. The 997 is not even close to a 993 is any way except its engine is in the rear and has round headlamps... It's a 996 with wider hips.

They barely look similar... anybody with Stevie Wonders glasses can see that. Heck, the fuel cap isn't even located on the same side!


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The 964/993 are transitional cars. Along with a 997, the air-cooled to have is a G-series car - the last evolution of the 901:

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Originally Posted by ADias
The 964/993 are transitional cars. Along with a 997, the air-cooled to have is a G-series car - the last evolution of the 901:

What has that got to do with the 997 being the next iteration of the transitional 996 from the 993?
Old 05-17-2016, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleNutz
What has that got to do with the 997 being the next iteration of the transitional 996 from the 993?
The 996 is not a transitional car - it is the first water-cooled; an inflection point.

The 993 is a transitional car. The 997 is the last of the water-cooled with a shorter WB, as some of us consider the 991 a different car - long WB/GT-like. The G-series is the last of the 901 series. There's a connection - 2 bookends.

If one wants a great water-cooled - the 997 it is. If one wants a great air-cooled one needs to go much further back than a 993.
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Originally Posted by ADias
The 996 is not a transitional car..
LMAO... you guys have really been drinking way too much of your own kool-aid. . But whatever makes you feel good I guess.

However, positing that the 996 was not a transitional 911, in every aspect, is absolutely retarded. as the the 997 shares more in common with 996 than it ever did with the 993. The 996 was an absolute departure for Porsche in design, performance, and engineering for the 911. It's following iteration was the 997. The 997 obviously did not follow the 993, and has very little in common with it [except where the engine is located] and the last I checked the 996 has it in the same place and is engineered and built almost identically with only some displacement and small internal design differences, particularly when you consider the WB examples of the 996 which were the predecessors of the 997.
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Originally Posted by DoubleNutz
LMAO... you guys have really been drinking way too much of your own kool-aid. . But whatever makes you feel good I guess.

However, positing that the 996 was not a transitional 911, in every aspect, is absolutely retarded. as the the 997 shares more in common with 996 than it ever did with the 993. The 996 was an absolute departure for Porsche in design, performance, and engineering for the 911. It's following iteration was the 997. The 997 obviously did not follow the 993, and has very little in common with it [except where the engine is located] and the last I checked the 996 has it in the same place and is engineered and built almost identically with only some displacement and small internal design differences, particularly when you consider the WB examples of the 996 which were the predecessors of the 997.
"Transitional" for me means evolution. The 996 was a major departure, thus not transitional, more like a major inflection change. I had a 996 too - a C4 just like yours...

And yeah, you agree with me the 997 has little to do with the 993. Some think that because its interior dash changed from the 996 and has some air-cooled gens cues. Same with headlights.

My point above was that if one wants at a pair of air-cooled and water-cooled cars - take the bookends G, and 997.2.

But... more than anything do not get upset. It's just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by ADias
"Transitional" for me means evolution. The 996 was a major departure, thus not transitional, more like a major inflection change. I had a 996 too - a C4 just like yours...

And yeah, you agree with me the 997 has little to do with the 993. Some think that because its interior dash changed from the 996 and has some air-cooled gens cues. Same with headlights.

My point above was that if one wants at a pair of air-cooled and water-cooled cars - take the bookends G, and 997.2.

But... more than anything do not get upset. It's just my opinion.
However, the birth of the 997 WB evolved from the 996 C4S and the 996TT not the other way around.


Defined:

transition
[tran-zish-uh n, -sish-]

noun
1.
movement, passage, or change from one position, state, stage, subject, concept, etc., to another; change:

evolution
[ev-uh-loo-shuh n or, esp. British, ee-vuh-]
noun
1.
any process of formation or growth; development:
the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2.
a product of such development; something evolved:

Thus the 996 was the transition (the changed 911), and the 997 is the evolution of the 996.
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Originally Posted by DoubleNutz
However, the birth of the 997 WB evolved from the 996 C4S and the 996TT not the other way around.


Defined:

transition
[tran-zish-uh n, -sish-]

noun
1.
movement, passage, or change from one position, state, stage, subject, concept, etc., to another; change:

evolution
[ev-uh-loo-shuh n or, esp. British, ee-vuh-]
noun
1.
any process of formation or growth; development:
the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2.
a product of such development; something evolved:

Thus the 996 was the transition (the changed 911), and the 997 is the evolution of the 996.

Thanks for the definitions. But... by WB I mean wheelbase...
Old 05-17-2016, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ADias
Thanks for the definitions. But... by WB I mean wheelbase...
In either case [widebody or wheelbase], by definition the 996 would be the transitional (changed) vehicle and the 997 is an evolution of it.


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