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Old 04-08-2016 | 03:15 AM
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Hi, as anyone successfully installed a GT3 specific center radiator? I am doing this with all factory air ducts and brackets but I am running into clearance issue as the inlet and outlet are partially blocked by front panels.
Old 04-08-2016 | 03:17 AM
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Btw my car is a 2006 Carrera S 6mt. I also will be installing a GT3 front bumper cap and GT3 specific side radiators.
Old 04-08-2016 | 10:05 AM
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Let us know what you find, as I will be going down the same path eventually.

And if you decide the work is not worth it, and want to sell the GT3 rad parts, please PM me.
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It will not if you are using the GT3 kit with hoses and brackets. The GT3 radiator vents out of the 'smiley' in the front bumper cover. Unless you've cut one, it will not vent anywhere so it's basically dead weight. There are other hose fitment issues someone mentioned in a previous thread last month. Maybe it was on 6speed. Do a search.

Edit: Do you have a GT3? I assumed is was a Carrera since you're in the 997 forum here and not the GT3 forum.

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Old 04-08-2016 | 01:04 PM
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I know you mentioned GT3 "Specific", but I myself not sure if it will fit the S properly.

Here's my DIY with factory kit for the S.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...carrera-s.html
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Thanks guys, I am using OEM gt3 bumper, radiator support, air ducts and hardware down to every nut and bolt. I also checked PET, the frunk part number seems to be the same b/w 997.1 GT3 and C2S.

Maybe I need to flip the radiator upside down, but that will require major cutting to the radiator support and I don't know if the hoses will fit or if that will introduce other issues.

I believe Mobonic converted his 997 C2S to Cup center radiator, so I think a solution is there somewhere.
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The GT3 air ducting exits upwards.
My DIY above is the S kit and the hot air exits downwards.
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Initially, are the side radiators for the Carreras andgt3 the same, I don't think so....
Old 04-09-2016 | 09:56 PM
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Yes, I think the side radiators for GT3 and C2S are the same. They have the same part numbers per Autoatlanta.

GT3: http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-p...section=105-15

C2S: http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-p...section=105-15
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Hi, Did you guys ever figure out the parts needed to flow the air through the center radiator and vent it UP through
The “smiley” like they did on the 997 GT3? I really want to do this on my car but I am having a very difficult
time finding out the correct part numbers to do it! I am corresponding with several of the factory Porsche parts guys
and am finding it very difficult to get the part numbers and diagrams so that I KNOW I’m ordering the right parts.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Tony
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You’re gonna need part 11 and 4... part 4 is shown here as the c2s part. Let me do some digging, I have these exact parts in my garage waiting to be installed but I’m not home [img]blob:https://rennlist.com/60459dcb-eaf3-4...785679e348your

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997-504-487-92 retaining frame
997-504-489-81 air duct
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Trying to understand if there is a legitimate benefit to venting the rad out the top vs the bottom. Out the bottom is a $200 kit and out the top seems to be much more involved and expensive and if there is no actual benefit it just does not seem to make sense.
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I’ve heard that venting under the car can cause lift, venting over the top can/does aid with downforce. How much of either is debatable
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Originally Posted by drivrswntd
Trying to understand if there is a legitimate benefit to venting the rad out the top vs the bottom.
There won't be any definite answers without a wind tunnel, but generally yes.

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I’ve heard that venting under the car can cause lift, venting over the top can/does aid with downforce. How much of either is debatable
It likely won't significantly increase the downforce, instead just reduce lift. Arguably they are one in the same, just the negative of eachother.

Bottom exit would increase pressure under the car and increase lift. Porsche placed the air exit specifically in a low pressure zone on the top to help draw the air out and keep it from going underneath. It likely doesn't add any significant downforce.

Fifty years ago, air under the car wasn't so much of a problem. There was already so much turbulence under the car that adding to it may not have had a significant impact.

Starting in the late 80s and 90s manufacturers started to pay attention to the underbody - there are lots of flat surfaces to smooth the airflow (and accelerate it if designed correctly).

But since the bottom is smoother, dumping air out the bottom can be even worse than in years past and cause more lift than it would on an older car.

But there are lots of variables, cross section of duct entry, cross section of duct exit, angle of radiator, air pressure, surface types, etc. You can route the air correctly but if the ducting isn't correctly designed you can still stall the air.

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