997.2S in Cary
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Body kit looks incomplete to me, like it needs sideskirts to finish the look. Spoiler may be overkill for a daily driver though.
Otherwise, what do you guys think of the price? I'm sure there's some wiggle room, say ~$2-3k, depending how motivated they are to move it.
https://leith.porschedealer.com/preo...10458/info.php
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Looks like the FVD rear deck and spoiler.....very expensive...
http://www.fvd.net/us/en/Porsche-0/9..._-Look%60.html
and the front lip is.....
http://www.fvd.net/us/en/Porsche-0/9...yurethane.html
I say both good pieces to have...
http://www.fvd.net/us/en/Porsche-0/9..._-Look%60.html
and the front lip is.....
http://www.fvd.net/us/en/Porsche-0/9...yurethane.html
I say both good pieces to have...
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Any accidents? Not bad if it checks out.
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I'm not a big fan of the spoiler/body kit but if you like it and it passes a ppi, that seems like a pretty decent price on a 997.2 S.
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No accidents...2 owner car, the 2nd being the selling dealer it seems, according to it's Carfax.
What do you think an 09S with the same mileage/options should sell for? (disregard the aftermarket stuff on it)
What do you think an 09S with the same mileage/options should sell for? (disregard the aftermarket stuff on it)
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I don't dislike the front and rear aero pieces, but like you said, the sills look very plain--like there is a bit missing in the middle that the PO didn't install.
The price seems high to me, too. I would be interested in hearing how willing they are to move down.
As to dealing with Leith, get an independent PPI. Leith has an absolutely terrible Porsche service department and you can't trust what they say. I took my car there and was one and done. Several items under warranty that they couldn't/wouldn't fix and then when I got it back, it looked like they'd washed it with used toilet water. There was not a single aspect of the experience that was positive. Even the loaner used Toyota that they gave me smelled. I took my car over to Performance in Chapel Hill and never looked back.
And don't think that buying the car there will help you. It won't. I have two friends that didn't take my advice and bought 911s there. They both regret it. The service department are equal opportunity customer-fu(%ers.
The price seems high to me, too. I would be interested in hearing how willing they are to move down.
As to dealing with Leith, get an independent PPI. Leith has an absolutely terrible Porsche service department and you can't trust what they say. I took my car there and was one and done. Several items under warranty that they couldn't/wouldn't fix and then when I got it back, it looked like they'd washed it with used toilet water. There was not a single aspect of the experience that was positive. Even the loaner used Toyota that they gave me smelled. I took my car over to Performance in Chapel Hill and never looked back.
And don't think that buying the car there will help you. It won't. I have two friends that didn't take my advice and bought 911s there. They both regret it. The service department are equal opportunity customer-fu(%ers.
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I think the price is high considering the mileage. While the price is on the low side considering it is a 2009 C2S, it still has 58k miles.
I bought a 2009 Base C2 Cab out of state back in the winter and paid 52.5 plus the CPO though it only had 20k on the clock. (I really wanted an S, but this one was impeccable, couldn't justify the extra money for the S, and the price was right)
You may be able to find something with less miles out there which would be more desirable.
I will mirror what Iceter said. I have not done business with Leith Porsche, though have receive the same rotten treatment from Leith Honda and Leith Acura and I will never set foot on any of their properties again. Performance in Chapel Hill will take care of you.
I bought a 2009 Base C2 Cab out of state back in the winter and paid 52.5 plus the CPO though it only had 20k on the clock. (I really wanted an S, but this one was impeccable, couldn't justify the extra money for the S, and the price was right)
You may be able to find something with less miles out there which would be more desirable.
I will mirror what Iceter said. I have not done business with Leith Porsche, though have receive the same rotten treatment from Leith Honda and Leith Acura and I will never set foot on any of their properties again. Performance in Chapel Hill will take care of you.
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Iceter and gopirates, good to know. That's very surprising since it is a marquee car, can't believe they gave you a smelly Toyota as a loaner. But yeah, I'd prefer a low mileage .2 and since the winter months are almost here, I'm sure it would be worth the wait. I mean I've waited 40+ years so what's another couple of months for my first Porsche.
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mroadie, since it does not appear to be a CPO car, I wouldn't be too concerned about dealer service experiences. There are several good indy shops in the area that can maintain the car as it is intended to be.
We all know no matter what the dealership, there are always going to be horror stories. To me, they are all pretty much the same. Just don't set the bar too high. LOL
As for the price, well that's always negotiable... either they meet your expectations or they don't. If they do, great! If they don't, you have a choice to make. How does it compare to listings at other dealerships?
Oh, if you do end up with the car and don't like the aero bits, they'll work well on ours!!
Good luck,
Gary
We all know no matter what the dealership, there are always going to be horror stories. To me, they are all pretty much the same. Just don't set the bar too high. LOL
As for the price, well that's always negotiable... either they meet your expectations or they don't. If they do, great! If they don't, you have a choice to make. How does it compare to listings at other dealerships?
Oh, if you do end up with the car and don't like the aero bits, they'll work well on ours!!
Good luck,
Gary
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better check the condition of the brakes and tires, at 58000 it probibly needs both, plus who knows what else. if it was 100% they would cpo it. But they know its going to take alot of money to bring it to condition. (they have already inspected it and know what it needs) ask them to do a complete cpo inspection and let you know the findings. before you make a offer on it. Also chances are with the body mods there may be some other performance mods they arent describing
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Here's the response I got this morning from Nathan concerning the mods. Doesn't sound like he knows either lol.
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Manny,
The 2009 Porsche 911 S has the following aftermarket parts:
1. Bilstein coilovers
2. fabspeed
3. GT3 RS front turn signals
4. GT3 RS front body extenders
5. GT3 RS front body chin
6. GT3 RS style rear wing (Unknown aftermarket brand)
7. Front dive planes
Here is a link the Carfax:
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=DON_0
Here is a link to a short walk around video of the car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlfamSAGZc&feature=youtu.be
Nathan Hansen
Porsche Sales
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Manny,
The 2009 Porsche 911 S has the following aftermarket parts:
1. Bilstein coilovers
2. fabspeed
3. GT3 RS front turn signals
4. GT3 RS front body extenders
5. GT3 RS front body chin
6. GT3 RS style rear wing (Unknown aftermarket brand)
7. Front dive planes
Here is a link the Carfax:
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=DON_0
Here is a link to a short walk around video of the car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlfamSAGZc&feature=youtu.be
Nathan Hansen
Porsche Sales
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It would not be a safe assumption that the techs at Leith Porsche have checked anything, as they are hacks. Trusting them to do a PPI on their own car would be idiotic. To paraphrase the immortal words of Eugene Mirman, hiring Leith to check out their own car would be like hiring an insincere baby to solve a crime that it committed.
And gr1275, you are absolutely right. On the internet, you can always find someone who has something bad to say about a person, place or business. I have lived in Raleigh over 30 years and I can say without exaggeration that the number of people that I have talked to who had a bad experience at a Leith store outnumber the good experiences by at least ten to one. When a reputation like that develops over decades, it's due to the culture of the company, not a few random bad actors.
But specifically, the Porsche service department is one of the worst I have ever encountered--and I have worked at two dealerships and worked with many, many more over the course of my career.
And gr1275, you are absolutely right. On the internet, you can always find someone who has something bad to say about a person, place or business. I have lived in Raleigh over 30 years and I can say without exaggeration that the number of people that I have talked to who had a bad experience at a Leith store outnumber the good experiences by at least ten to one. When a reputation like that develops over decades, it's due to the culture of the company, not a few random bad actors.
But specifically, the Porsche service department is one of the worst I have ever encountered--and I have worked at two dealerships and worked with many, many more over the course of my career.
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Here's the response I got this morning from Nathan concerning the mods. Doesn't sound like he knows either lol.
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Manny,
The 2009 Porsche 911 S has the following aftermarket parts:
1. Bilstein coilovers
2. fabspeed
3. GT3 RS front turn signals
4. GT3 RS front body extenders
5. GT3 RS front body chin
6. GT3 RS style rear wing (Unknown aftermarket brand)
7. Front dive planes
Here is a link the Carfax:
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=DON_0
Here is a link to a short walk around video of the car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlfamSAGZc&feature=youtu.be
Nathan Hansen
Porsche Sales
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Manny,
The 2009 Porsche 911 S has the following aftermarket parts:
1. Bilstein coilovers
2. fabspeed
3. GT3 RS front turn signals
4. GT3 RS front body extenders
5. GT3 RS front body chin
6. GT3 RS style rear wing (Unknown aftermarket brand)
7. Front dive planes
Here is a link the Carfax:
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=DON_0
Here is a link to a short walk around video of the car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlfamSAGZc&feature=youtu.be
Nathan Hansen
Porsche Sales
For a small store that deals with one high-end marque only, the fellow I spoke with when I was shopping for my car didn't seem to know much about the cars in general and didn't know a thing about the cars he had in inventory.