Clunking, Bad Control Arm, Fixed w/video
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Clunking, Bad Control Arm, Fixed w/video
2009 C2S 86K miles
Symptoms:
- Clunking that sounded like it came from on top of the engine
- Clunking started at around 50K miles
- Squirrely handling at around 65K miles... car felt a little to alive and moved around a bit too much
Repair
- Pair of new OEM (TRW) control arms 997 331 043 01
- About $240 for the pair from Pelican (genuine Porsche was twice cost)
- About $313 for labor at my Indy shop
I had these stupid arms for about 1 year and was going to DIY but could not do the work. I tried; I pulled the wheel and realized you have to drop the pan and remove another support member. I gave up, you will need a lift of will have to do it on your back... something I will not do. If you have a lift or like dropping crap into your eyes, this is not a hard job.
I could not get good data on what was causing this clunk. Putting a crow bar in there just doesn't tell you anything so I guess which part was the offender purely based on experience with my 2000 Boxter S. The Boxster went through the same arms... I think at least twice in its 197K miles.
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Movie: Note how easy it is to move the collar around. On a new arm, this thing will not budge and is solid.
Pictures: You can't tell from the pic or movie, but without much pressure, I am getting metal-on-metal contact. The black rubber you see is just a boot, the actual load-bearing bushing (actually a ball/sphere and plastic collar) is inside.
Symptoms:
- Clunking that sounded like it came from on top of the engine
- Clunking started at around 50K miles
- Squirrely handling at around 65K miles... car felt a little to alive and moved around a bit too much
Repair
- Pair of new OEM (TRW) control arms 997 331 043 01
- About $240 for the pair from Pelican (genuine Porsche was twice cost)
- About $313 for labor at my Indy shop
I had these stupid arms for about 1 year and was going to DIY but could not do the work. I tried; I pulled the wheel and realized you have to drop the pan and remove another support member. I gave up, you will need a lift of will have to do it on your back... something I will not do. If you have a lift or like dropping crap into your eyes, this is not a hard job.
I could not get good data on what was causing this clunk. Putting a crow bar in there just doesn't tell you anything so I guess which part was the offender purely based on experience with my 2000 Boxter S. The Boxster went through the same arms... I think at least twice in its 197K miles.
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Bruce in Philly
Movie: Note how easy it is to move the collar around. On a new arm, this thing will not budge and is solid.
Pictures: You can't tell from the pic or movie, but without much pressure, I am getting metal-on-metal contact. The black rubber you see is just a boot, the actual load-bearing bushing (actually a ball/sphere and plastic collar) is inside.
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You're lucky. On my car, the clunk is coming from lower control arms. My car is under CPO warranty so I need to have the work done at the dealer, but the lower control arms are on back order with no ETA. Pelican parts had three in stock as of yesterday or so, but my dealer can't get them from pelican. Thanks for your write-up.
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The boot actually does not require cutting, I just pulled on it with a pair of pliers and it pops off. What is puzzling me, is there is no slop... the plastic cushion appears to be in good shape although the movement is very free. There is no clunk. I tried pressing out the ball but to no avail... I may try again next weekend.
I just wish I did this 15K miles ago.... handling is more planted, no "bobbing and weaving" and more importantly, no more clunking..... although I can't really figure out what part was clunking..... the metal shaft pitching over and banging the wishbone?? I guess that was it. In my still picture above, my thumb is pushing over the shaft and it is all the way... stopped by the shaft touching the inner circle of the socket.
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I did just that, opened it up, but there is a good video on this from a vendor... no endorsement of their stuff, but a good video that shows what is inside.
The boot actually does not require cutting, I just pulled on it with a pair of pliers and it pops off. What is puzzling me, is there is no slop... the plastic cushion appears to be in good shape although the movement is very free. There is no clunk. I tried pressing out the ball but to no avail... I may try again next weekend.
I just wish I did this 15K miles ago.... handling is more planted, no "bobbing and weaving" and more importantly, no more clunking..... although I can't really figure out what part was clunking..... the metal shaft pitching over and banging the wishbone?? I guess that was it. In my still picture above, my thumb is pushing over the shaft and it is all the way... stopped by the shaft touching the inner circle of
The boot actually does not require cutting, I just pulled on it with a pair of pliers and it pops off. What is puzzling me, is there is no slop... the plastic cushion appears to be in good shape although the movement is very free. There is no clunk. I tried pressing out the ball but to no avail... I may try again next weekend.
I just wish I did this 15K miles ago.... handling is more planted, no "bobbing and weaving" and more importantly, no more clunking..... although I can't really figure out what part was clunking..... the metal shaft pitching over and banging the wishbone?? I guess that was it. In my still picture above, my thumb is pushing over the shaft and it is all the way... stopped by the shaft touching the inner circle of
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Impossible to tell. From these forums, the lower arm is the problem.... but not sure. The only way I know to be sure, is use chasis ears.
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