IMS failure??
04-05-2015, 10:13 PM
#16
Can't answer (1) above, but the odds your car's engine is suffering from an IMS failure right this minute is very low. A few flecks of metal, in the oil filter which is there to catch these, and one ferrous one in an oil sump that has not been removed since day one is not out of the ordinary.
You want something to worry about? Worry about whirled peas.
You want something to worry about? Worry about whirled peas.
04-06-2015, 07:40 AM
#17
Thanks for the engine code correction.
If you really want to get **** about the engine, the oil needs to be sampled and sent off for analysis at the time the filter is cut. To a degree, the concentration of alloys in the oil can help to satisfy curiosity as to what engine component is wearing. There is, however, quiet a difference between aircraft oil analysis and motorcars because of the vast differences in oils used, fuel type and and overall manufacturing differences and metallurgy. But people do it anyway. One needs to be sure the correct information is included with the sample in order to draw the correct conclusions.
If you really want to get **** about the engine, the oil needs to be sampled and sent off for analysis at the time the filter is cut. To a degree, the concentration of alloys in the oil can help to satisfy curiosity as to what engine component is wearing. There is, however, quiet a difference between aircraft oil analysis and motorcars because of the vast differences in oils used, fuel type and and overall manufacturing differences and metallurgy. But people do it anyway. One needs to be sure the correct information is included with the sample in order to draw the correct conclusions.
04-06-2015, 02:17 PM
#18
Thanks for the engine code correction.
If you really want to get **** about the engine, the oil needs to be sampled and sent off for analysis at the time the filter is cut. To a degree, the concentration of alloys in the oil can help to satisfy curiosity as to what engine component is wearing. There is, however, quiet a difference between aircraft oil analysis and motorcars because of the vast differences in oils used, fuel type and and overall manufacturing differences and metallurgy. But people do it anyway. One needs to be sure the correct information is included with the sample in order to draw the correct conclusions.
If you really want to get **** about the engine, the oil needs to be sampled and sent off for analysis at the time the filter is cut. To a degree, the concentration of alloys in the oil can help to satisfy curiosity as to what engine component is wearing. There is, however, quiet a difference between aircraft oil analysis and motorcars because of the vast differences in oils used, fuel type and and overall manufacturing differences and metallurgy. But people do it anyway. One needs to be sure the correct information is included with the sample in order to draw the correct conclusions.
04-07-2015, 01:12 AM
#19
Former Vendor
Don't just assume the metal in the filter is from the IMSB. These engines have many more modes of failure that generate debris than the IMSB.
That said, we've only seen a total of 5 M97 IMSB failures, ever... Of those 5, there were 4 of them that saw heavy track usage, and we've already proven that high speed operation is the only thing that will really kill the M97 IMSB.
Were the particles ferrous? What color were they? Was the sump plate pulled for inspection? Do you have any photos?
There's no reason to offer M97 IMSB products, because so few of them fail.
That said, we've only seen a total of 5 M97 IMSB failures, ever... Of those 5, there were 4 of them that saw heavy track usage, and we've already proven that high speed operation is the only thing that will really kill the M97 IMSB.
Were the particles ferrous? What color were they? Was the sump plate pulled for inspection? Do you have any photos?
There's no reason to offer M97 IMSB products, because so few of them fail.
04-07-2015, 01:37 AM
#20
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Don't just assume the metal in the filter is from the IMSB. These engines have many more modes of failure that generate debris than the IMSB.
That said, we've only seen a total of 5 M97 IMSB failures, ever... Of those 5, there were 4 of them that saw heavy track usage, and we've already proven that high speed operation is the only thing that will really kill the M97 IMSB.
Were the particles ferrous? What color were they? Was the sump plate pulled for inspection? Do you have any photos?
There's no reason to offer M97 IMSB products, because so few of them fail.
That said, we've only seen a total of 5 M97 IMSB failures, ever... Of those 5, there were 4 of them that saw heavy track usage, and we've already proven that high speed operation is the only thing that will really kill the M97 IMSB.
Were the particles ferrous? What color were they? Was the sump plate pulled for inspection? Do you have any photos?
There's no reason to offer M97 IMSB products, because so few of them fail.
The small flakes in the filter looked very shiny and silver. The single speck in the sump was the size of needle point and barely visible. We were able to pick it up with a magnet. Unfortunately I didn't think to take photos of the contamination.