my 17 year old really really wants to drive my new (to me) 997
#31
I taught my sons to drive a manual transmission in a Subaru, which is the easiest manual I've ever driven. Even in the Subie, they each stalled it over and over. It took a while, but they learned. I'm glad I didn't teach them on my 911.
My younger son wanted to take my 911 to the senior prom, and he was convinced that I would let him do it. I didn't. I have no problem with him driving the car, but I want him to get some experience driving it with me, in a more controlled environment first.
My younger son wanted to take my 911 to the senior prom, and he was convinced that I would let him do it. I didn't. I have no problem with him driving the car, but I want him to get some experience driving it with me, in a more controlled environment first.
#33
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This technique explains I believe how I have managed to cover 288K miles in my Boxster with its original clutch and my 03 Turbo with at the time the tranny was out for an RMS job -- at around 120K miles -- and its clutch was checked the clutch disc had no measurable wear.
This technique explains I believe how I have managed to cover 288K miles in my Boxster with its original clutch and my 03 Turbo with at the time the tranny was out for an RMS job -- at around 120K miles -- and its clutch was checked the clutch disc had no measurable wear.
#34
#35
But, may be it is a genious case and he will ntuitively learn how to feed throttle and release clutch smoothly and simultaniously right away, from idle rpm mark. Who knows.
All i meant was - a 997 clutch will survive it all just fine. It is built to sustain much more than that.
#36
It's interesting how different the clutch feels from one car to the next, even from one Porsche to another. I've driven manual transmission cars for over 30 years. My best mileage on a single clutch was on a 1993 Isuzu Trooper. I bought that car new and when I sold it at roughly 242,000 miles, it was on the original clutch.
My 997 TT clutch is much, much more difficult to drive than my 996 C4S was. The 997 is completely stock, but it feels totally different than any clutch that I've ever used. It is very sensitive and it requires quite a bit of gas to get going. I still worry that I'm going to stall it and it's my daily driver! I wouldn't want my sons to learn on this car...
My 997 TT clutch is much, much more difficult to drive than my 996 C4S was. The 997 is completely stock, but it feels totally different than any clutch that I've ever used. It is very sensitive and it requires quite a bit of gas to get going. I still worry that I'm going to stall it and it's my daily driver! I wouldn't want my sons to learn on this car...
#37
My (at the time 17 yr old) behind the wheel - first time with a clutch. She did great and we have a memory for life - Just look at her smile :-)
The best part was when the Trooper coming the other way pulled a hard and fast U-Turn and put on his lights. He nabbed the car behind us.
The best part was when the Trooper coming the other way pulled a hard and fast U-Turn and put on his lights. He nabbed the car behind us.
#39
Utkin
You are doing something wrong if you can't get your car moving in first gear without gas.
My car idles at 750 or so. Absolutely no problem moving off in first gear.
Seriously try it. I bet you can and will be surprised that your car easily allows you to do that
You are doing something wrong if you can't get your car moving in first gear without gas.
My car idles at 750 or so. Absolutely no problem moving off in first gear.
Seriously try it. I bet you can and will be surprised that your car easily allows you to do that
#40
Do any of the major rental companies still rent manuals??? I don't think so...but if yes, I think that's the WAY better option. Once he has the process down-- but still inexperienced-- then take him out in the 997. There's just no way I could sit in the passenger seat and listen to the grinding sounds of my clutch without getting chest pains!
Anyone know if you can rent a manual transmission? I think that's the way to go...
Anyone know if you can rent a manual transmission? I think that's the way to go...
#41
Quick internet search
http://www.budget.ie/automatic_or_manual.php
I bet you can find one. No way do I teach my kid in my car.
http://www.budget.ie/automatic_or_manual.php
I bet you can find one. No way do I teach my kid in my car.
#43
what should I do??
As my mother would say to me growing up: If you need to ask, the answer is NO! I now use this saying with employees.
Dan
Dan
#44
Rent a stick beater, that would work for a 1st lesson or two.
If he does well, ease him into the 911.
I sort of had a list of check boxes with my kids:
swimming
shooting
driving
chainsaws/machetes/nail guns/lawn mowers
boating
spinning a wrench/changing a tire/jacking various heavy vehicles
martial arts
flying
If you don't teach them, who the #$&% will? Look at Graham's post. He gets it. His dot will ALWAYS remember the day...
If he does well, ease him into the 911.
I sort of had a list of check boxes with my kids:
swimming
shooting
driving
chainsaws/machetes/nail guns/lawn mowers
boating
spinning a wrench/changing a tire/jacking various heavy vehicles
martial arts
flying
If you don't teach them, who the #$&% will? Look at Graham's post. He gets it. His dot will ALWAYS remember the day...
#45
My son learned to drive a standard with my John Deere tractor first and then with a KLR250 (Kawasaki). After he had a grasp of this, I let him drive my 964 Turbo a few years later. There is nothing wrong with saying NO. Being cool to a teenager is not necessarily a way to earn respect in the long run. Episodes like this can initiate feelings of entitlement. We should be parents first, not friends.