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burkef123,
I just went through this with my 2011 C4S 997.2 Let the oil cool and put your oil pan under the car and loosen the oil plug a little. Have another washer in your other hand before you pull the plug out. Pull the old washer off quickly and put the new washer on and put the plug back in as fast as you can. Then tighten the nut to specs. I did this and about 1.2 quarts came out during the process. Rubber gloves and lots of newspapers around help a lot.
Then start the car and check the oil level. Mine was just above the lower mark so I added about 1/3 quart back in to bring the gauge up to the full mark.
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+ 1 This sounds like the plan. Since the 997.2 has no dipstick this method will work. I like the crush washer in hand technique! Since you will start changing your own oil after this, this is a one time event!
Torx socket set, torque wrench (19 lb ft), drain pan, floor jack (or two), rags. Recover expenditures for everything on your first change.
+ 1 This sounds like the plan. Since the 997.2 has no dipstick this method will work. I like the crush washer in hand technique! Since you will start changing your own oil after this, this is a one time event!
Torx socket set, torque wrench (19 lb ft), drain pan, floor jack (or two), rags. Recover expenditures for everything on your first change.
It's a hex socket (IIRC it is 8mm) not torx. Torx might fit but it may round out the plug
It's a hex socket (IIRC it is 8mm) not torx. Torx might fit but it may round out the plug
I had been doing oil changes in my 996 for about 8 years...been using a torx socket all those while, until just recently when I discovered it is actually HEX!!! Well, I guess I never had any problems as I usually replace the drain plug with the washer anyway. I have on a couple of occasions reused the drain plug AND washer, had to due to emergency - forgot them in my order! No big deal, nothing happened, not the tiniest drop of oil leaked. Those things CAN be reused. It's just that they're inexpensive, and not worth risking the hassle of any possible leaks.
Slightly off-topic, but if I wanted to remove the oil filter from my 997.1 without doing a full oil drain, would all the oil come out, or just what's in the filter plus a little bit more? The reason for this is I'm tracking some small plastic particles I found in my oil pan when installing a deep sump and want to do another UOA and filter analysis after 500 miles, but don't want to throw away 10 quarts of Motul 8100 xcess, when I could top it back up by adding about 1 quart.
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Pete,
Removing the filter without opening the drain in the oil pan will remove only the amount of oil in the filter and filter canister. Not sure how much oil the filter holds, but relative to the total amount of oil in the sump, I would think it is no more than 1/2 a quart or so.
Removing the filter without opening the drain in the oil pan will remove only the amount of oil in the filter and filter canister. Not sure how much oil the filter holds, but relative to the total amount of oil in the sump, I would think it is no more than 1/2 a quart or so.
Well here is the final answer. It was just an overfill. I had the car in to my regular indy shop in the Bay Area to check the alignment so they were able to deal with the oil issue at the same time. They removed and replaced the drain plug expecting that the amount of oil lost during that would be sufficient but ended up having to do it a second time. They did not measure the total amount but felt that it could have been as much as a quart and a half. The shop that did the oil change said that they put in the amount recommended by Porsche so the only thing that we can figure is that it was not completely drained.
Anyway, lesson learned and thanks to everyone for your suggestions and input.
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