defurr

Anyone have experience with the Fabspeed performance exhaust/intake/ECU upgrade on the 3.6L?

I have a 997.2 C2 coupe. Love it. Interested in slightly more power-- though I realize that this is a slippery slope that leads quickly into coveting a GT2 RS or a Turbo S. I have read the discussions that say: Just trade up to the C2S or Turbo if you're lusting after more power; the mods aren't worth it.

However, my rationale for doing it is as follows:

1. My current car is the devil I know, in terms of maintenance and reliability
2. I love the featureset on my C2: steering wheel with multi-control (rare) and vented seats (VERY rare)
3. I like the wheels on this car
4. I really don't want to go through the logistical pain of finding the C2S, negotiating, trading in, taking the financial hit for the miles I've invested, etc.
5. I don't track the car. Do I really want Turbo speed to risk even more traffic tickets? I rarely get to enjoy the current car's capabilities as it is, thanks to Dallas' crowded roads.

So, if I upgrade the current vehicle, it might not be as amazing as a C4S, a Turbo, etc., but it should be noticeably faster, and hopefully scratch the itch a tad. Maybe even increase the car's value ever-so-slightly when I do eventually trade-up for real.

poparelly

Performance mods on NA cars like ours give very little performance gain. That said, I really like the sound of my Fabspeed Maxflo on my C4S. That also said, I wish it had sport cats. Slippery slope indeed.

Hunt3R

It won't really be faster, but it will be noticeably louder and noticeably cooler looking therefore feeling noticeably faster on the butt dyno.

BTW, mods don't necessarily increase a Porsche's value. Depending on who you sell to a nice looking\sounding exhaust may help make the sale, but personally I will never buy a NA car with a modded ECU.

1Carnut

I have known Joe since he first started out, and though I think his products are good. Please allow me to give you the benefit of over 40 years of doing mods to cars. Certain cars (that generally interest younger buyers) can be sold for more with the proper modifications. Porsche's are not one of those cars and you will lessen the value of your car with mods, how much will depend on the mods you do. My 997S has over 140K in modification alone, but as a Porsche it is a worthless kit car. There are plenty of tuners out EVOM's is pretty upfront company but with the ECU tune, Air box, and exhaust you with get less then 25 of both hp and tq. Is that worth around 4K to you. If so then go for it. Just save the original parts you will likely need them when you get rid of the car. Another idea start driving your car with the traction controls off and learn to handle the car the way it was meant to be driven. Find a big empty parking lot and do this before you try it on public roads. I mean no insult to you or any owner here I have just found over the years that hp is more of a bragging right than something you end up really using.

MY997

I agree with the previous post ^^^^^ as I spent serious money on modifying my last car (Lexus ISF) and when I look back it really was not worth it just for some "looks" and a few pictures taken of it...but if you are not going to track the car or compete in dyno battles or or do 1/2 mile events then the spending can be for not...it also hurt my trade in value and I used nothing but top of the line equipment installed by Lexus, HOWEVER, I say all that as I am talking to my Porsche Motorsport division about doing a tune and some exhaust mod (have not decided yet) to get a bit more sound and UMP from my car...but I don't think I will do much more than that except maybe wheels down the road so I can use my stock wheels for DE events...just my 2 cents!!!

P.S. Sorry to go "OT" as I don't have any experience with Fabspeed but have read various things about them (most good) throughout various forums...my Porsche Motorsport division likes them and has installed many exhaust on customers cars if that helps at all???

jhbrennan

Ditto - no direct experience...but we must be reading different posts - most everything I've read recently has been bad, especially when it comes to customer service. Maybe the Internet only focuses on "bad". I'd do more research both on products and vendors.

MY997

Hmmm...interesting...maybe I need to go do more research myself but I only remember one bad thread about them and it seemed like it was maybe a communcaition issue??? I have read quite a few post where owners have the exhaust and love the way it sounds? Personally for my needs I actually think I am going to go with the Sharkwerks bypass. My Porsche Motorsports division suggested the Fabspeed bypass but I like the way the Sharkswerks looks and what I have read about it seems very good...IMHO.

Collin Chapin

Lol, I good a good laugh out of the "butt dyno".

MessyMarvin

Exactly, you are not going to get more power, just sound. And Mods will decrease the value, not increase it. Save all your stock parts and put it back to stock before you sell it.

Consider money spent on mods gone, otherwise you will be disappointed.

mk3boy

fabspeed service sux. I have a gt3 rear conversion that is far from perfect. Once you pay the answers abd excuses start. Once you receive the product who cares . Buy from someone else please !!!

Dennis C

I would agree that mods will typically not increase the value of a vehicle, and will often decrease the value. Buyers of a used Porsche are frequently looking for a car that won't cause them any problems, and they often want an "unmolested" stock example.

I agree with the others' comments - the mods you're considering will definitely make the car louder (which is fun!) but probably won't add much in terms of performance. Many would argue that an intake does nothing but increase the sound, and that headers can actually decrease performance on these engines. The ECU flash may add a bit more torque in the usable range, but it won't be significant and may not "scratch the itch".

I think a muffler change is a worthwhile mod simply because of the improved sound. That may be enough to enhance your driving experience...

John@Fabspeed

Defurr,

While we offer quite a product line for the 997, nothing we offer will help scratch a "GT2 or Turbo Itch"

If you are looking for something that will magnify the features of your 997, as others have said - maybe an exhaust or x-pipe. This will free up a few extra horse power, along with really creating an exceptional exhaust tone. Many times the added sound along with a few extra horse power really does add nice power increase on the "Butt Dyno".

If there is something I can help out, please feel free to shoot me a PM or Email.


As far as the customer service concerns, we do apologize if anyone has not been reached out to. The company has been growing and we have had some new members come and go, but rest assured that we want to take care of anyone, and if there is an issue you have, please feel free to reach out so that the issue can be address.

MK3Boy - If there is something we can help out with as far as the fitment and your dissatisfaction please shoot me a PM or email.

mk3boy

I've sent email with no answers. I'm fed up of emailing and getting no answers. The whole buying process with fabspeed was complete garbage. Do not buy from them. I will bring my car with my new 4k US exhaust to a exhaust shop to fix it. More cost!

John@Fabspeed

I have provided you with my personal email, and sent you a PM. I would be happy to help you with something if you have an issue with your Fabspeed product.

Jaye Bass

I worked with Fabspeed on my 964. I had no issues. In fact, they worked with me when I changed my mind about what I really wanted.