"Pop" Sound on shutdown?
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I beleive that's true for 997.1 cars. From 2009 onward, a separate PSE button is provided even if you have Sports Chrono.
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Yup, positive. I'd post up a photo if I was "with car" today at work. I've seen the photo online (looks like a shotgun or binoculars actually) and I definitely don't have the button. But I definitely have the PSE.
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With my luck, it will probably refuse to make the sound tonight
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It's the PSE.
The reason it happened when you were playing wih the stereo in the car wihout the engine running is that the signal to the vacuum actuator switch in the engine compartment that sucks the valves closed via the vacuum lines probably energizes with the key in the accessory position, even without starting the engine. After shutdown, eventually the system loses enough vacuum where the springs in the exhaust valves pull them back open again. I have a Fabspeed Valvetronic Muffler and when mine release they sound more like a squeeky door and don't bang, but if the springs in the OEM PSE are stronger, I could see how it could make a bang sound. Here's a photo of my fabspeed setup where you can see the valves (they have the braided stainless vacuum lines running to them) - the factory PSE ones should look similar and be in a similar location.
The reason it happened when you were playing wih the stereo in the car wihout the engine running is that the signal to the vacuum actuator switch in the engine compartment that sucks the valves closed via the vacuum lines probably energizes with the key in the accessory position, even without starting the engine. After shutdown, eventually the system loses enough vacuum where the springs in the exhaust valves pull them back open again. I have a Fabspeed Valvetronic Muffler and when mine release they sound more like a squeeky door and don't bang, but if the springs in the OEM PSE are stronger, I could see how it could make a bang sound. Here's a photo of my fabspeed setup where you can see the valves (they have the braided stainless vacuum lines running to them) - the factory PSE ones should look similar and be in a similar location.
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It's the PSE.
The reason it happened when you were playing wih the stereo in the car wihout the engine running is that the signal to the vacuum actuator switch in the engine compartment that sucks the valves closed via the vacuum lines probably energizes with the key in the accessory position, even without starting the engine. After shutdown, eventually the system loses enough vacuum where the springs in the exhaust valves pull them back open again. I have a Fabspeed Valvetronic Muffler and when mine release they sound more like a squeeky door and don't bang, but if the springs in the OEM PSE are stronger, I could see how it could make a bang sound. Here's a photo of my fabspeed setup where you can see the valves (they have the braided stainless vacuum lines running to them) - the factory PSE ones should look similar and be in a similar location.
The reason it happened when you were playing wih the stereo in the car wihout the engine running is that the signal to the vacuum actuator switch in the engine compartment that sucks the valves closed via the vacuum lines probably energizes with the key in the accessory position, even without starting the engine. After shutdown, eventually the system loses enough vacuum where the springs in the exhaust valves pull them back open again. I have a Fabspeed Valvetronic Muffler and when mine release they sound more like a squeeky door and don't bang, but if the springs in the OEM PSE are stronger, I could see how it could make a bang sound. Here's a photo of my fabspeed setup where you can see the valves (they have the braided stainless vacuum lines running to them) - the factory PSE ones should look similar and be in a similar location.
Any thoughts on whether this is an issue that needs to be addressed by the dealership? Or if this is a "just live with it" situation?
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You can double-check to see if we're right. Just go back to the exhaust after removing the key and locate those valves. You should be able to see an arm on them move when the vacuum releases and that's when you'll hear the pop.
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We're talking about physically looking into the exhaust pipes with a flashlight here? I can do that.
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No, we're not looking in the exhaust pipe. You need to find the little rod (see red box) that is part of the valve assembly on the muffler. There's one on each side for each PSE muffler. The valve assembly should have a rubber vacuum line going to it. That rod will move one way when vacuum is established and the opposite way when vacuum is released and when it's released the spring inside is what moves it back and what I think is causing the noise you hear as the valve hits it's stop inside the assembly.
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I'm hoping I can do that without removing the bumper...I'll check it out.
I am ALMOST completely positive the noise is the stereo though. It is much louder inside the car than outside the car.
I am ALMOST completely positive the noise is the stereo though. It is much louder inside the car than outside the car.