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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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I have a 07 4s with 6 speed. My question is I have the sport button which changes computer. It is so much faster and responsive with the button on. Why would porsche make this an option and not just make this standard setting? Also if you have this option do you keep it on or off?
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Sport is pretty awesome, right? I use it most of the time, turn it off on long commutes for better road manners.
Majority of the time I drive with sport mode on, pse on, Psm off
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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I find it's easier to drive with Sport mode OFF in stop & go traffic. That's about the only reason I turn it off.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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The Sport button is doing jack-all for you but changing the throttle position map so less deflection gives more throttle. It's 100% psychological and doesn't change the performance of the car at all; all you ever really needed to do in normal mode was mash the fun pedal a little harder and you'd have gotten the exact same effect.

Now, it opens the PSM envelope a bit, and that can be a good thing on the track, but as you should never be getting even close to that on a public street, it's sort of N/A. The only real benefit to sporty street driving is the different gearshift maps in PDK cars. In making the throttle pedal map more aggressive, however, it reduces the fine control we have on the throttle, which is REALLY important in performance driving when a little too much or too little means winning, losing, or spinning off into an armco. I've found it's virtually impossible to properly modulate the throttle with Sport+ on, and makes it difficult to "steer with the throttle" in fast sweepers and properly nail corner exits. Porsche should never have mucked with the gas pedal map. The sport buttons should absolutely have been standard in ALL cars, though.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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I find rev matching (heel and toeing) to be perfectly executable in Sport mode. In Normal mode, not so much. In Normal mode, you have too much computer-induced play in the pedal action.

But, if you drive around in Normal mode in traffic, you can modulate the clutch so well that you minimize wear to the bare minimum.

I'm rarely in traffic, so I opt to keep the throttle in Sport mod almost all the time. I consider 'Normal' as a mode to use when I am accelerating from at/near 0 MPH a bunch (puttering through a little town littered with lights or stop signs... or getting along in traffic).

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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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I've only had my car a couple of weeks, but I find that around town, normal mode makes it feel like driving a Camry. That's a good thing as I live in the urban core of Tampa with brick streets, and lots of traffic. Sport mode makes it feel like a Porsche. That's a good thing when there's room to play a little. I really like that it makes the car have 2 personalities. It fits with the "Porsche everyday" philosophy. However, Sport mode on the PASM is good only for the smoothest of smooth surfaces.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by txfight00
Sport is pretty awesome, right? I use it most of the time, turn it off on long commutes for better road manners.
Majority of the time I drive with sport mode on, pse on, Psm off
You're driving around town with the PSM off? Why would you want to do that? It puts you and other drivers (most importantly OTHER drivers) at unneeded risk.

Are you driving around town in such a way that PSM would be interfering if you'd left it on? If so, WTF?

Leaving it on only helps you. It will only work to save your *** when it's needed and it stays out of the way when you don't, which is 99.9% of the time. If PSM is getting in your way on a regular basis in your everyday driving, then you're doing something wrong.

I've left PSM on at car control clinics, on skid-pads, slaloms, etc. You have to do a LOT to get PSM to kick in. You'd have to be driving like a thoughtless idiot to get PSM to interfere on a regular drive so much that you'd opt to leave it off by default.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
You're driving around town with the PSM off? Why would you want to do that? It puts you and other drivers (most importantly OTHER drivers) at unneeded risk.
I'm guessing that txfight00 meant PASM, not PSM. If that's the case, PASM is never off, it's just in regular mode or Sport mode.

I have a 6MT and rarely use Sport mode. I drive in lots of traffic, and like the linear throttle response.

If I had a 991 or 981, where Sport mode gets you rev matched downshifts and (on the 991) dynamic transmission mounts, I'd use it more.

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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mgordon18
You're driving around town with the PSM off? Why would you want to do that? It puts you and other drivers (most importantly OTHER drivers) at unneeded risk.

Are you driving around town in such a way that PSM would be interfering if you'd left it on? If so, WTF?

Leaving it on only helps you. It will only work to save your *** when it's needed and it stays out of the way when you don't, which is 99.9% of the time. If PSM is getting in your way on a regular basis in your everyday driving, then you're doing something wrong.

I've left PSM on at car control clinics, on skid-pads, slaloms, etc. You have to do a LOT to get PSM to kick in. You'd have to be driving like a thoughtless idiot to get PSM to interfere on a regular drive so much that you'd opt to leave it off by default.
Because i just got the car and am in the process of feeling it out. I am trying the different modes and figuring out the driving characteristics of each combination. There is an autoX coming up and so far i like my above config the best.
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For autocross, you'll want full Sport+, PSE loud, PASM stiff, and PSM off. PSM will hide a lot of your mistakes, so best to learn to drive without it.
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Yep. Agreed.
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