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After many emails/calls, I think I've got some answers. I spoke with Gary at Hawk pads direct ( they are an independent dealer of Hawk products) He said the best option for performance pads are as follows- Front 719-654 Hawk 5.0.compound.Rear 651-624 HSP compound. I ordered them and will have them Wednesday. I will post when they arrive and confirm fittment. Hope this helps all 997.2 c2-c4 base owners looking for a performance brake pad.
Awesome. I suspected the GT3 rears would fit since the PFC part numbers cross reference as well, but that would allow us to run Hawk DTC60s/70s as a cheaper option than the Pagid / PFC pads. Let us know if they fit properly.
Just my impressions on Hawk pads... they are good, but not great! I've had them on my Audi before and they were OK on the street, but really sucked at track and barely better than OEM. They also didn't last and squealed.
For a street/track combo pad, THE ONLY PAD that has truly worked for me, and many others I know is Ferodo 2500, PERIOD. It provides the best of both worlds, amazing in street driving, great cold bite after SECOND brake application, and on track with street tires they do NOT fade on our cars. Cannot recommend those enough!
Finally installed pads I received for 997.2 c-2/c-4. They are correct fittment front and rear . Numbers are correct as previously posted. Ordered them from Hawk Pads Direct, issue did arise as front pads I received had been previously been installed and put back in the box. I called them sent pictures and have not heard back from them as to this issue. Paid full price for new pads , not used! Not sure I can recommend them as a source.
I am very frustrated right now. My Indy has had my car for over a week and had to put back on my original front pads because he was not getting the correct Hawk ceramic pads for my base 2005 C2 997 after two orders and dealing directly with Hawk. I was only changing them now because my rotors are still very good (28k miles) and i wanted less dusting. I know he tried but I have to pay him for his time and effort and I am back to square one and out $$.. Apparently their was an issue with the spring clip fitment?. He was able to obtain and install the rear pads however. So two questions:
Has anyone replaced their front pads on a 997.1 base, specifically a 2005, with Ceramic pads? If so, would you happen to know the brand (Hawk?) and part numbers that worked?
Wouldn't all C2 base 2005 - 2008 997.1 front brake pads be the same?
I find it hard to believe that they are not out there, but apparently their is confusion around the correct part numbers and 2005 model designation for some reason. Please help -Thanks!
Uiv just installed hawk ceramic brake pads. Very easy. I did not replace the rotors as this is the first pad replacement. Initial impression were ok. Practically same as Oem feel...I refused the backing plates.. It seems the hawk and Oem pads have the same look of the back of the plate that is stuck on the backing plates.simply reused all even thif wear indicators. Haven't bed in properly yet it feels good already....
Had 4 15 minute sessions, and while I didn't have any major issues, these pads were not confidence inspiring and I think that once they got (track) hot, they either started quickly wearing down or ate into my rotors, as I've never seen so much dust after a full day, let alone only 4 sessions.
I had a few moments were I was a little uncomfortable, foot hard on the brake, car not slowing down as fast as I would like. It was clearly heat related as it happened repeatedly at the end of the two long straights. I drove around it and was fine, but it was not a great feeling.
The brake dust was definitely metallic, so suspect a fair amount of rotor in there. Parked next to other cars with OEM or track pads, my wheels looked black with dust compared to theirs that looked like they'd been driving in the street for a week.
Overall I'm not overly unhappy with the pad - they're definitely a little less dusty on the street, and they don't make any noise, but they still produce a fair amount of dust and their lack of initial bite or ability to handle heat means I probably won't use them again.
Now to find a reasonably low dust pad that won't squeal on the street and can handle an occasional track day...
nzskater, you are a brave man for even thinking about trying these on a track.
My hope was that these would be a good, dust-less street pad that would handle some autox. I'll keep the track pads for track work. Initial bite is almost nil, which probably means I won't like for an autox. I am still hoping they will bed in better as the old pad deposit wears off and new pad deposit occurs. They are otherwise quiet and pleasant on the street. I will autox them next weekend, so we'll see. They still dust, although significantly less than old pads, so I'm not sure the pay off is there--if I'm still going to have to wash wheels, why not stick with a higher performance pad?
10-09-2017, 11:29 PM
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