"Bullet-Proof"...What's Your Definition?
03-12-2014, 07:19 PM
#106
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"There is no substitute" is a marketing slogan - not a promise of a carefree driving experience. My Porsche has been a very fun experience and relatively trouble free so far. I'm looking forward to many more years of ownership.
Sometimes I think that the majority of car owners who frequent car forums are there because they have had a problem(s) and like to bitch about their issues.
Sometimes I think that the majority of car owners who frequent car forums are there because they have had a problem(s) and like to bitch about their issues.
03-12-2014, 07:21 PM
#107
Nordschleife Master
I have made my point : some folks buy neglected cars with high miles,off leases and driven hard,not to the church on Sunday,because the beauty is,you can afford one at that point. S**t happens... There are exceptions...low miles engines that were properly maintained have failed-those are unfortunate cases,it's not the rule of thumb.
Good luck!
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03-13-2014, 04:50 PM
#108
Drifting
Bullet Proof is quite simple. It means that if you shoot the engine block or drive train with a rifle, the car will still run and move. All the rest of it is misuse of the term. ;-)
If we want to relax that a bit, I'd go so far as to say, if you stay under the redline and do normal maintenance, the engine and power-train should not fail. For at least 250,000 miles.
If we want to relax that a bit, I'd go so far as to say, if you stay under the redline and do normal maintenance, the engine and power-train should not fail. For at least 250,000 miles.
03-13-2014, 06:14 PM
#109
Pro
If it was a great or satisfactory dining experience, that person is less likely to let us know with a positive review. Too many people stereotype based on a few anecdotal cases.
03-13-2014, 06:39 PM
#110
Rennlist Member
Normally I would agree with you, but Porsche appears to be different. The power of the brand is overcoming the following: 1) Cheapened engine that has a bad failure rate... for 10 years.... 2) Denies it... loses a class action suite... 3) Forums and mechanics all over the place dis the car, at least more than other brands. 4) Porsche raises prices and breaks sales records. Wha???
Cashing out a brand name is nothing new. Food companies buy quality niche products, mass produce and cheapen ingredients; Ford's Jaque Nasser takes over, rips out QA functions, orders engineering to design to warranty, increases profits, reaps huge bonuses..... leaves.
Is Porsche immune? Seems to be. I believe enthusiasts made this brand but face it, posers make the profit. And now volume is getting to the point that enthusiasts are less of a factor. My point is that humans are so shallow that they have no problems wearing a useless codpiece as long as it is expensive and displays their wealth.
I had two Porsche engines blow. What did I do? I purchased another one. A codpiece? I hope not or I need to see an analyst.
Sometimes sales and profits go up, sometimes the brand is killed... I don't know, it is a high risk crap shoot.
Peace
Bruce in Philly
How this will impact the future of the company is unclear. Most of us love the brand but how long can you take advantage of that? If you read the 991GT3 forum, many of those guys have had it. The recent order to stop driving the new GT3s and the lack of info coming out of Porsche has them frustrated, rightfully so, and many of them are looking at Ferraris and even the new C7 Corvette, whose warranty by the way covers track use unlike Porsche. But between Cayennes, Caymans, Boxsters, and now Macans, the GT3s are probably no longer significant to the success of Porsche, a sad commentary given the history of the brand. And depending on the cost of the fix for theGT3 problem, they may become a liability.
Companies come and go over time. I am sure the people at Sears and JCP 20 years ago never thought they would see the day where their companies would be struggling just to hold on.
