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Do these Before-n-After fillters look, um, "typical"?

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Old 01-11-2014, 11:33 PM
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Default Do these Before-n-After fillters look, um, "typical"?

I guess I'm not used to seeing the paper element of an oil filter, but dang, that looks dirty. The air filter.. meh.. it was "time" but nothing too crazy IMO.
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Typical? Yes based on what I've seen when I've changed the oil/filter (and air filters) in my cars. Might want to change the cabin air filter too.
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I was shocked the 1st time on the oil filter too but then not ever owning a car with a removable oil cartridge before, (too used to the sealed cans type so we can't see inside) it's pretty much normal.
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No sparkly bits in the filter: it's good!
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Originally Posted by sjfehr
No sparkly bits in the filter: it's good!
To actual see any bits you really need to cut both ends of the filter and unravel it. The bits get trapped in the crevices. If he would be seeing bits with the filter that way that would mean trouble. Fine scattered bits are normal.

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Oil filter looks fine. Air filter seems quite dirty though, is that oil on it?
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Originally Posted by Dubbin'
To actual see any bits you really need to cut both ends of the filter and unravel it. The bits get trapped in the crevices. If he would be seeing bits with the filter that way that would mean trouble. Fine scattered bits are normal.

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I was more referring to IMS; when IMSs start going, the filter will sparkle like a christmas tree. Normal wear & tear will be hidden, like you say. I always send oil samples off for analysis and cut my filters up for the deeper diagnosis. Was relieved to find my latest filter nearly 100% devoid of debris after finding a lot of sparkles last change that I think now were just from changing the spark plugs, but had me worried at the time.
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Great to see more DIY enthusiast doing their own oil changes... you can get so much more insight re the health of your engine. One of the things I really appreciate about these paper filters is that you can easily cut and then inspect them afterwards for signs of engine related issues. Followed by a Blackstone oil analysis(no affiliation) and you have the equivalent of a blood analysis after an annual physical. I just did an oil change yesterday after approaching 3K miles since the last change. 6 months ago I switched from MB-1 to Motul Xcess 8100... most immediate benefit visually was that the paper filter looked light brown and clean. Other observed benefits: Motul Xcess is an approved Porsche A40 listed oil, provided higher oil pressure(1.5 vs. 1 bars at idle), and slightly cooler oil temp during the heat of summer. Cost wise... Motul+filter+Blackstone = ~$105/oil change. The benefit of being in tune with the health of the car(engine) is invaluable. Congrats on the DIY oil change and enjoy the ride!

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Got the Blackstone bottle ready to go. I do it for my bike - this'll be my first car analysis.
I'm interested to see acid and metals - trying to deduce if the PO took care of her.
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Chrono, how many miles on that oil+filter?
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Originally Posted by fskof
Chrono, how many miles on that oil+filter?
Well.. I really don't know. At worst, 22k miles, but of course I'm hoping for much less.. the Blackstone will tell the story.

The car was serviced by a Porsche dealer until 16k, which likely means the oil was not changed during that time. My hope is that the "minor service" checked off in the Maintenance booklet meant they changed oil at least one or two of those times.

Air Filter - likely 22k.
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What year is your car?
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Oil filter looks normal.

Air filter has been in there WAY too long, IMHO.

I'd cut the air filter interval in half.
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I believe for MY05-07 997's Porsche had a oil change schedule of 20K miles. For MY08 they changed to every 12K miles. Of course, now that you're DIYing then you can do a change as often as you like but I would not go beyond 12K miles.


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