Brake job
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I just took my car to the dealer for a minor service (50K miles). I told them to check the brakes because I know the pads will need to be replaced soon. They have about 25K miles on them.
According to the dealer I need front and rear pads and rotors. I have a few questions:
1. Is it normal to change all 4? Is it normal to change pads and rotors? I believe the rotors also have about 25K miles on them.
2. How much should this cost? Getting quoted $2,300
3. Does anyone know an indy shop in South Florida they would recommend? I understand that a 911 brake job is not very complicated and I would like to start a relationship with a good indy shop anyways. Price is not the only consideration.
Thanks for any feedback
According to the dealer I need front and rear pads and rotors. I have a few questions:
1. Is it normal to change all 4? Is it normal to change pads and rotors? I believe the rotors also have about 25K miles on them.
2. How much should this cost? Getting quoted $2,300
3. Does anyone know an indy shop in South Florida they would recommend? I understand that a 911 brake job is not very complicated and I would like to start a relationship with a good indy shop anyways. Price is not the only consideration.
Thanks for any feedback
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Well it depends on your model. The s cost more.
The front rotors are like $400 and rears are like $350
Pads are $200 and $150.
Bolts, fluids , etc prob $100
Of course sensor are more if they need replacing but you can reuse them.
And youll need a flush.
So parts total is prob $1200 So your dealer is charging you $1100 labor for a 3hr job?
Frankly i would buy the parts from suncoast and take it to a indy porsche shop.
I good mechanic could do it in 2 hrs.
Lastly you dont have to get oem rotors. There are some nice aftermkts.
The front rotors are like $400 and rears are like $350
Pads are $200 and $150.
Bolts, fluids , etc prob $100
Of course sensor are more if they need replacing but you can reuse them.
And youll need a flush.
So parts total is prob $1200 So your dealer is charging you $1100 labor for a 3hr job?
Frankly i would buy the parts from suncoast and take it to a indy porsche shop.
I good mechanic could do it in 2 hrs.
Lastly you dont have to get oem rotors. There are some nice aftermkts.
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Where in South Florida? I have a Porsche certify mechanic thats very reasonably priced and very knowledgeable. Let me know.
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if you are at ALL handy (i.e. can you change a light bulb?) then you can prob do a brake job. seriously, it is so easy, it's surprising. save yourself the labor hours - even an indy will prob charge you $500+.
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I did a 4 corner brake job on my Boxster in 1 hour. That included getting my car on jack stands and taking the wheels off.
Yes it is normal to change the rotors and pads. In non cross drilled brakes you can "turn the rotors" which is using a lathe to make the surface smooth. Since we all have drilled rotors, you have to replace them. If you look at Pelicanparts.com you can get all your parts and DIY. It cost me $550 and 1 hour of my time.
Yes it is normal to change the rotors and pads. In non cross drilled brakes you can "turn the rotors" which is using a lathe to make the surface smooth. Since we all have drilled rotors, you have to replace them. If you look at Pelicanparts.com you can get all your parts and DIY. It cost me $550 and 1 hour of my time.
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If you could find an installer, we offer a brake service kit that includes everything you need.
Includes the following parts:
~ Sebro front & rear rotors
~Textar front & rear pads
~Sebro brake pad wear sensors
~ECS stainless steel rotor set screws
~AGS Syl-Glide Silicone Brake lubricant
~Genuine Porsche caliper mounting bolts
For more information Click Here.
Includes the following parts:
~ Sebro front & rear rotors
~Textar front & rear pads
~Sebro brake pad wear sensors
~ECS stainless steel rotor set screws
~AGS Syl-Glide Silicone Brake lubricant
~Genuine Porsche caliper mounting bolts
For more information Click Here.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Does anybody have any thoughts regarding using Genuine Porsche versus third party parts (Sebro/Zimmerman Rotors or Textar pads)?
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My $0.02
You do not necessarily have to replace the rotors. You can find the original and minimum rotor thickness online (I think it the minimum is also stamped on the rotor) and determine what % of the rotor is left. Provided that there is no cracking between the cross-drilled holes and the lip at the edge of the rotor is not huge, you may only need a pad change which is way cheaper. The new pads will bed onto the existing rotors in <100 miles.
I used OEM pads recently on my Cayman, but I believe the OEM pads are made by Textar..
As others have said, its an easy job. Only specialty tools you need are a floor jack and a torque wrench.
Good luck.
Kit
You do not necessarily have to replace the rotors. You can find the original and minimum rotor thickness online (I think it the minimum is also stamped on the rotor) and determine what % of the rotor is left. Provided that there is no cracking between the cross-drilled holes and the lip at the edge of the rotor is not huge, you may only need a pad change which is way cheaper. The new pads will bed onto the existing rotors in <100 miles.
I used OEM pads recently on my Cayman, but I believe the OEM pads are made by Textar..
As others have said, its an easy job. Only specialty tools you need are a floor jack and a torque wrench.
Good luck.
Kit
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Porsche doesn't manufacture brake components, they buy them from places like Sebro and Zimmerman. If you prefer, Pelican (maybe ECS too) will sell you the OEM parts as well for a lot less than a Porsche dealer.
I've always gone with well known aftermarket brands in the past.
I've always gone with well known aftermarket brands in the past.
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rear rotors on non-DE car are pretty much immortal.
front rotors are typically due when they develop cracks. at 50K miles you may replace them if you want but it is optional, really.
look for rotors here for your car
http://topbrakes.com/searchResults.p...nufacturer_id=
for pads on same site you can use Hawk HPS or some like thos EBC redstuff for street as it makes less dust
http://www.carid.com/2005-porsche-99...s-4222994.html
all that job is a 40min exercise. very simple to do but I do not think you need new rotors. when you _need_ rotors you will feel it by excessive vibration during braking and excessive noise from grooves.
front rotors are typically due when they develop cracks. at 50K miles you may replace them if you want but it is optional, really.
look for rotors here for your car
http://topbrakes.com/searchResults.p...nufacturer_id=
for pads on same site you can use Hawk HPS or some like thos EBC redstuff for street as it makes less dust
http://www.carid.com/2005-porsche-99...s-4222994.html
all that job is a 40min exercise. very simple to do but I do not think you need new rotors. when you _need_ rotors you will feel it by excessive vibration during braking and excessive noise from grooves.
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One other comment. It was mentioned in an earlier post that you will need a flush. It may be convenient to do the flush while you have the wheels off if you are near the 2 year service interval, but if that's not the case a flush is not necessarily required.
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Brake job is super easy. If you don't need to replace the rotors, you don't even have to take the calipers off. The pads slide right in from the top.
And if you had no pad wear indicator light, your sensors are ok too.
And if you had no pad wear indicator light, your sensors are ok too.
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Just did my STi. BREMBO's, with BREMBO pricing. I had all the parts, 4 rotors and pads, and fluid. under 9oo dollars tax and shipping. Dealer? $25oo for parts. You do have a choice here. You are doing the correct thing with seeking knowledge and opinions. Even if you use an indy shop, you can still shop it at your dealer? make them an offer? They may say no? they may lower the pricing if they fear you will leave. I do that with all my cars/trucks. I don't care if it is up on the lift. I'm not paying $324 for turning my rear MDX rotors and new pads. They knocked 30% off for me. All you can do is try.
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