tkdinga

I've been using Klasse All-In-One (AIO) and Sealant Glaze (SG) for the last 4/5 years and I know there are a lot of new products out there (Black Diamond being one I haven't tried), and a lot of this is personal preference and how much time you want to spend detailing, but I am sold on the Klasse System. It can be easy (1 coat of AIO and 1 of SG, or 1 or 2 passes w/AIO if your paint needs it, then multiple coats of SG).

Keep in mind though, it is Acrylic based and not Polymer based like Zaino (which I used to use on an Audi with good results too), or a Wax like P21S. But the thing I like about Klasse is that well, 1)AIO does a great job for me twice a year of getting off any oxidation, water spots and minor swirls, and 2) Sealant Glaze (if aplied in 2 or 3 or more coats) starts building up like coats of glass and the look is incredible, 3) You can top off SG with a good Caranuba Wax like P21S if you'd like, but I have had such great success w/thin coats of SG that I have 5 on there now, and Wax would be just a waste of time, for me. The water beading now is incredible and the paint is protected for at least 5/6 mos.

Finally, SG gets a bad rap for sometimes being difficult to remove but here's a tip that eliminates all of that: Sonus makes a product called Sonus Acrylic Glanz, which is designed to work w/SG. You don't have to, but if you spritz it on your applicator to apply SG, it is easier to apply, and then mist your buffing towel or the body panel when you are ready to wipe SG off, I have had absolutely no trouble removing all traces of it. Acrylic Glanz is obviously acrylic based so it is a great companion product for Klasse. The other great thing is once you have the Klasse on your car, you can use Glanz, or their Acrylic Spritz, to detail your car between or after washes or as a final step.

Sorry for the long post but I've found w/some German paint formulations, the Acrylic seems to really work well. Obviously not knocking anything else because there are a lot of things out there I haven't tried, but I'm sold on this process.

hakaida702

For sealants I prefer Menzerna or Auto Finesse.

TheDatanator

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Griot's Garage... I've used their sealant since '04 on my cars. Top shelf products. I use the sealant in fall & spring each year and top with their premium carnauba. Hand wash with Griot's spray wax and you're good to go. Since following this process I've never - ever - had any blemishes. The key is to have a perfect surface with the initial sealant application.

CarreraX

I also use griots sealant and "best of show wax" as well as the spray wax after washing. So you do the sealant and then the wax over that? I always thought it was an either/or situation. That said, I am not a clean and detail your car for fun kind of guy but I want it to look good. I just bought a brand new black van. I am trying to decide if I should sealant or wax? The van lives outside.

Ynot

Just use Dawn dish washer liquid to remove the old wax. Autogeek is correct. I've been using Klasse Sealant glaze for years and it works great, especially on black cars. Add a few coats and your paint becomes a mirror. Don't over do it as it could be hard to remove. I tried to do it twice a year but once a year is sufficient if you don't park your cars outside.

vg247

Ynot, do you have a particular tricks to the application and wipe off of the Klasse sealant? I've read in an older thread that putting the sealant in a spray bottle, then spray on car to wipe off makes it easier to remove/ buff out but have yet to try this..

Many thanks.

TheDatanator

With a clean surface (you'll have to determine if you need to clay your paint) use sealer. You really don't need to wax over it because the paint is then protected. If you want more depth and warmth, use a good carnauba over the sealer. You will love it.

997_Toronto

Guys...new to the Porsche world so this might be a dumb question. Does the paint sealant protect against rock chips too? Does the effect a paint sealant have get reduced if you have 3M or Xpel installed?

SteveFromMN

+1
1. Get car clean by washing if first time use Dawn
2. Use Z2 accelerant not really necessary unless cold out.
in the the early days it didn't exit! Use Z2 very sparingly!
3. Easy Wipe off when it hazes.
Thats it lasts and lasts and has great protection and great shine.

Ynot

That sounds like a great idea but if you are going to spray, I suggest wrapping up the rubber parts otherwise it'll be a pain to remove. I do it the old fashion way. Squeeze a small amount on a foam pad and apply it to one section, move on the section, let the first section dry, then go back and scrub it off with a microfiber cloth.



No, only way to protect it from rock chips is to cover it with clear bra like 3M, Xpel, etc. Hopefully you'll apply a coat of wax and or sealant before cover it up with a clear bra. Your clear bra will protect you from UV rays, rock chips, etc. When you remove it, your paint will be brand new again.

vern1

I have used this technique and works great

Patriot

Agree Z2 accelerant not needed. I like to use Zaino All in one first, then very thin layer of Z2, topped off with Z6 spray.

perfectlap

I used Klasse SG for a long time. Great result but Werkstatt Trigger is immensely easier to use. No special techniques need for excellent results and protection.
Their Prime seasonal polish is also one of the best I've ever used and I have a garage full of every single boutique and OTC brand. By the way, don't believe the hype of most of these detailing companies.

It's all in the prep.

I could prep two cars equally and use expensive boutique brand X's sealant and wax on one car, and $8 Turtle wax on the other and only a very well-trained eye could tell them apart.
Save your money for quality towels like the Griot's green and blues.


The thing I like about Griot's is that you can buy it over the counter at Advanced Auto. That eliminates the "shipping and handling" charges. Also, they run generous email coupons and sometimes Advanced have as much as 50% discounts during the holidays. This is when I order lots of Griot's towels. And the best deal on clay bars is from Griots, a large quantity, they don't bundle it with detail spray to jack up the price like Meguiar's or Mothers, but they do package it in an air-tight jar to keep the clay soft.
Along with Finish Kare's 425 spray ( a proprietary must have product) I buy Griot's waterless wash and carnauba spray wax by the gallon.

iammulva

What specifically are you talking about re: prep? I get confused when I read these threads. Everyone has a product or products they SWEAR by, but no one seems to agree on just one. That makes me tend to agree with you on product (buy a "good enough" brand and you should get good results). Curious about your prep.

vern1

Prep is the act of getting the paint itself (pre wax or sealant) as smooth as possible. Usually involves claying (to remove contaminants) then polishing (ranging from compounds to finishing poilishes) using a random orbital or direct drive polishers (Flex etc).

If the piant isnt defect free then you are just polishing or sealing the defects. Check out autogeek.com or another such website. So much info it will make your head spin