997.1 a keeper!
07-17-2014, 02:14 PM
#61
Nordschleife Master
love these stories. congrats on a next to new low milage beast with full warranty! i bought my car with 14k miles so i know exactly how you feel.... congrats again!
Good post for anyone considering to buy a 997.1.
I recently took the plunge of buying a 997.1 C4S and made a lot of these decisions before even reading this thread (came to many of the same conclusions).
Basically I knew I want to get a 997 (991 is too big, too $$$$). Question was either a 997.1 or 997.2.
I wanted a 'S' or 'C4S' with manual.
After looking for a while I found a PCA owned 07 C4S with under 8k miles for a great price. After a clean PPI and some discussions about reliability and the IMS with many different Porsche techs, I pulled the trigger.
Everyone said the car is great and all it needs was someone to drive it (8k miles for a 07 was the only thing that concerned me, being a garage queen can be bad at times). The owner took care of the car and had great records to show and even the dealer for the PPI offered to buy the car from the owner (owner was a honorable guy and of course didn't even entertain the offer from the dealer).
The final cherry on the sundae was getting a 6yr/60k warranty from Fidelity that will cover most of the big ticket stuff. Due to the low mileage, got a great deal on the warranty - a bit under 3k.
Now I drive the 997 everyday, enjoying the hell out of it and not worrying one bit about an issue. The car has been amazing and everything I thought it would be.
My advice - find the car, if its a clean PPI and owner shows they took care of it - pull the trigger. Its worth it.
I recently took the plunge of buying a 997.1 C4S and made a lot of these decisions before even reading this thread (came to many of the same conclusions).
Basically I knew I want to get a 997 (991 is too big, too $$$$). Question was either a 997.1 or 997.2.
I wanted a 'S' or 'C4S' with manual.
After looking for a while I found a PCA owned 07 C4S with under 8k miles for a great price. After a clean PPI and some discussions about reliability and the IMS with many different Porsche techs, I pulled the trigger.
Everyone said the car is great and all it needs was someone to drive it (8k miles for a 07 was the only thing that concerned me, being a garage queen can be bad at times). The owner took care of the car and had great records to show and even the dealer for the PPI offered to buy the car from the owner (owner was a honorable guy and of course didn't even entertain the offer from the dealer).
The final cherry on the sundae was getting a 6yr/60k warranty from Fidelity that will cover most of the big ticket stuff. Due to the low mileage, got a great deal on the warranty - a bit under 3k.
Now I drive the 997 everyday, enjoying the hell out of it and not worrying one bit about an issue. The car has been amazing and everything I thought it would be.
My advice - find the car, if its a clean PPI and owner shows they took care of it - pull the trigger. Its worth it.
07-17-2014, 04:06 PM
#62
Thank you.
Now I'm having fun getting stuff for the car. Looking for a new set of wheels.
Ordered some Dectane LCDs as well.
Got some weather tech foot liners as well.
My wife is going to yell at me soon, when all the packages start coming.
Now I'm having fun getting stuff for the car. Looking for a new set of wheels.
Ordered some Dectane LCDs as well.
Got some weather tech foot liners as well.
My wife is going to yell at me soon, when all the packages start coming.
07-17-2014, 04:10 PM
#63
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
07-17-2014, 04:40 PM
#64
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Alex, because two people look at the same situation and come to different conclusions does not mean one of them made a bad or wrong decision.
In my situation, it evolved from deciding between an aftermarket warranty on my 06 vs. a CPO 997.2. Once I started looking at the 997.2 cars, and deciding on the PDK over the 6-speed in my 06, I compared the 997.2 vs. the 2nd generation PDK in the 991. Once I had driven the 991, I decided it was worth the price of admission for a low mileage 2012. You have your well-written tale of how you made your decision; this is mine.
People have different tolerances to risk; I have flood insurance on my home. I will likely never need it, as we live in a 100-year flood plain, but look at what happened to a lot of people who made a different decision.
I'm very well versed in the weaknesses in all the various 911 iterations, having owned examples of everything north of the 1978 911SC, aside from the 964. But in all those examples it was typically an age and mileage related issue, not a sudden failure. I gladly redid the top end on my 993 to address the SAI problems. I knew it was coming.
Should the engine in the 991 prove to have catastrophic failures, I would not own it out of warranty, either. In my case, that will not be an issue until 2018.
I wish you many trouble-free miles of driving in your 997. As I said, I thought my 06 was a great car. But having seen a car identical to mine in year and mileage having a new engine installed, I would want to own it with some sort of warranty for the peace of mind. That's just my decision based on what I've seen.
In my situation, it evolved from deciding between an aftermarket warranty on my 06 vs. a CPO 997.2. Once I started looking at the 997.2 cars, and deciding on the PDK over the 6-speed in my 06, I compared the 997.2 vs. the 2nd generation PDK in the 991. Once I had driven the 991, I decided it was worth the price of admission for a low mileage 2012. You have your well-written tale of how you made your decision; this is mine.
People have different tolerances to risk; I have flood insurance on my home. I will likely never need it, as we live in a 100-year flood plain, but look at what happened to a lot of people who made a different decision.
I'm very well versed in the weaknesses in all the various 911 iterations, having owned examples of everything north of the 1978 911SC, aside from the 964. But in all those examples it was typically an age and mileage related issue, not a sudden failure. I gladly redid the top end on my 993 to address the SAI problems. I knew it was coming.
Should the engine in the 991 prove to have catastrophic failures, I would not own it out of warranty, either. In my case, that will not be an issue until 2018.
I wish you many trouble-free miles of driving in your 997. As I said, I thought my 06 was a great car. But having seen a car identical to mine in year and mileage having a new engine installed, I would want to own it with some sort of warranty for the peace of mind. That's just my decision based on what I've seen.
07-17-2014, 05:46 PM
#65
Rennlist Member
I was in attendance at the Hershey Parade when the Club Coupe was unveiled. It still looks cool and will be ageless, just like my '07 C4S! This is my favorite Porsche.
07-18-2014, 12:47 AM
#70
Three Wheelin'
The same forces that have pushed the stock market higher have pushed the Porsche prices higher. Both are in nose bleed territory today. With the rest of my portfolio, I can own the risk of an IMS problem on my 997.1 X51.
Are you guys carrying comp and collision, or have you gone to liability only? As much as we all baby these cars, I am beginning to think I could self-insure on the high dollar coverage and take the risk on theft and collision. The dollars are significant every six months. How long before you go to liability only on a 997.1? I am not there yet, but I am leaning that way. I guess it depends on the risk of theft and how close you are to Mexico.
Are you guys carrying comp and collision, or have you gone to liability only? As much as we all baby these cars, I am beginning to think I could self-insure on the high dollar coverage and take the risk on theft and collision. The dollars are significant every six months. How long before you go to liability only on a 997.1? I am not there yet, but I am leaning that way. I guess it depends on the risk of theft and how close you are to Mexico.
Last edited by sclemmons; 07-18-2014 at 01:36 AM.
07-18-2014, 01:08 AM
#71
Race Car
Today I was out driving the 997 in New Canaan and Greenwich,Connecticut with the wife getting ice cream and enjoying the weather. 993/997/991 coupe/cabrio white/black you name it all over the place. To me the 993's looked the coolest, 991's looked the fastest, and the 997's looked just right.
07-18-2014, 01:12 AM
#72
Race Car
The same forces that have pushed the stock market higher have pushed the Porsche prices higher. Both are in nose bleed territory today. With the rest of my portfolio, I can own the risk of an IMS problem on my 997.1 X51.
Are you guys carrying comp and collision, or have you gone to liability only? As much as we all baby these cars, I am beginning to think I could self-insure on the high dollar coverage and take the risk on theft and collision. The dollars are significant every six months.
Are you guys carrying comp and collision, or have you gone to liability only? As much as we all baby these cars, I am beginning to think I could self-insure on the high dollar coverage and take the risk on theft and collision. The dollars are significant every six months.
