Tcc1999

That is exactly the reason. Up to a few years ago people were calling dealers, wiring funds, sending a transport to pick up the cars and shipping them to some other place in the world where a new Porsche costs a whole lot more than in the U.S.

But I'm a bit confused about your references to Audi of America? I didn't think that there were anymore Porsche+Audi dealerships. So, is it a Porshe that you bought or an Audi - and if it's a Porsche why would you reference Audi of America and not PCNA.

Insofar as having to have the car smogged, to call CA DMV rules arcane doesn't even come close to being an apt description - but, I would venture to guess that there is no assurance that even a new car meets CA smog requirements. By that I mean, perhaps if there is a flaw in the system (it's not like new cars are always 100 percent without little glitches) CA wants it fixed. It could be that the out of state dealership is just covering itself in this respect.

chago996

I just bought an out-state new MB GL350 and shipped to CA. It needed to have the smog check but that's because it was a diesel. New gas cars are exempt. Check the dmv website for more info.

daberlin

I read the same thing on the DMV website, so I agree with you. They claim less than 4 year and or 7500 miles constitutes a 'new' car and the only thing the DMV will check for is the '50 State emissions approved' sticker on the car and not a smog letter. I don't know what to advise since others have not had similar experiences. For $35 I'd probably just do a smog test just so I don't have to waste time returning to the dmv if they want to interpret the rules differently.

Byprodriver

CAdmv.gov has all the info on their site. When you buy a new car in CA you pay a fee to cover smog checks for the 1st 4 years, when you buy a car out of CA & bring it into CA you pay CA sales tax unless you don't bring the car into CA for 90 days. If you register the car in less than 90 days you pay the sales tax (9.5%) at that time.

RollingArt

I haven't read through all the rules on the website, but pretty sure that 90 days exemption from paying the sales tax is only allowed for new residents of CA.

Example;

A person living in Oregon buys a new car and 100 days later moves to CA, they will not have to pay CA sales tax on that new car.

If same person buys same new car and moves to CA 80 days later, they owe CA the sales tax on that purchase.


There is no way CA is going to leave a gaping hole in the sales tax laws like you've suggested. Everyone would be buying their cars out of state and waiting 90 days to register them in CA. Ain't going to happen.

B-Line

I bought a brand new, Audi R8, V10, Spyder, 6MT.

Since I still own my 997 Turbo and my 993C2S, I often ask my general, car related questions on Rennlist rather than going to the Audi forums. Why? Cause I can say, hands down, without any competition.... The best information about all things vehicle related are usually on Rennlist.

Rennlist seems to attract a highly educated, highly devoted and highly informed group of enthusiasts who take great pride in helping one another.

While a lot of other forums have great camaraderie, they don't have the knowledge and/or traffic to help facilitate quick, easy answers.

Go Rennlist!

Tcc1999

^Thanks for clarifying and, regardless of smog, taxes, etc., Congrats on a beautiful and awesome car!!!

daberlin

Test drove a V10 R8 last year. Absolutely awesome car. Enjoy and good luck!

B-Line

Hey Thanks... I've never owned a convertible before so I'm just hoping I love it. The R8 spyder is definitely less functional than a 911 with no back seats and extremely limited storage... But since it's not my only car, I think I'll be fine.
And I'll still have my 993.

- I had my eyes on a R8 Spyder for a while and was doing some digging/test driving. When I tell you, I was on the hunt for the right car at the right time, I'm not exaggerating.

See, Audi did not make any 2013 R8's because they are coming out with the new R8 which has very insignificant changes. Biggest change is the Rtronic -> Stronic transmission and different tail lights.
- But I wanted a manual. So they are essentially the same car.

At the end of 2012, Audi made a big batch of R8's that were shipped to the US as the final production vehicles. They threw in free upgraded (Audi Exclusive) paint, some interior stuff, etc.

These highly optioned but recently delivered 2012 R8's are taking up show room floor that Audi wants for the 2014's which are being made now.

My point being, the MSRP on the 2012 R8, Spyder with the paint and options I have is nearly $180k. My purchase price was $143k. $37k off MSRP.

I bought my V10, highly optioned spyder for less than a lot of people paid for a V8 coupe.

Right place, right time...

pissedpuppy

no, they shouldn't @ DMV (they didn't on mine)

mjsporsche

I believe you had another post where you revealed the R8 spider with dealer photos and I had asked if that was Schneider Nelson. I thought I was the only person that is forgetful!

Sometimes the dealer is required to sell the car to a person who will be registering it to drive in the US. There are a number of folks who buy these beauties and export them outside of the manufacturer's distribution channels. Audi might have rules on the R8.

A local Rennlister (Dr. G) picked up a beautiful R8 10 coupe a few months back. We all drooled over it during a NY Metro Run to Bear Mountain and the Catskills and beyond. Reach out to him to get his perspectives. I believe he loves it.

Mark

B-Line

Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot. Sometimes names and pic sigs all tend to blur especially when posting a lot.

Spyerx

First, use AAA if you have it. They do registrations and out of state checks for cars. I've used it a few times and worth the price to not got to DMV.

Agreed the wording on smog checks is somewhat vague, my understanding was NEW and 50 state car you are OK, no smog needed. AAA will advise for sure.

Curious on this: The taxes you paid were those NJ sales taxes or CA sales taxes? When you reg in CA do you have to pay CA tax? Or is there some sort of agreement with the taxes paid already?

AP997S

It's my understanding that if you're an 'out-of-state' buyer you pay no taxes as long as you don't operate the vehicle in that state. NJ shouldn't have collected any taxes; the buyer then pays the California tax (depending on the county) when the car is registered.

B-Line

Thanks for all the help.. New whip arrived yesterday.

2012 Audi R8, V10, Spyder - 6MT

























The badass truck that delivered it: