Hatzenbach

Oh no, not another tire thread

I just upgraded from mid engine rwd (Boxster) to rear engine 4wd (C4S). I am usually doing 10 track days / year. This year I first want to learn how to drive my new car, so want to hold off on any upgrades (and that includes track tires). However my tires are soon due for replacement and now I am looking to get the best streetable track tires, you could also say: the stickiest tire with more than 150 UTOQ rating.
On my Boxster the Dunlop StarSpec and the Hankook RS3 worked fine in this regard. However the StarSpec are not available in my size and the Hankook are the noisiest tires I EVER had on any car.
So I am looking at either the Michelin SuperSport, the Bridgestone RE050 (N1) or the RE11

Is anyone tracking (not spirited driving) any of these and can give me some feedback or has any other suggestions?

Thanks
Chris

mdrums

Michelin Super Sport. I haven't tracked them but a good friend with GT3 did and I've had plenty of students track them. Impressive tire.

kouzman

on the stock suspension on my 09 C2 i have tracked te PS2s and the SuperSports. Both of them impressive tires on the stock suspension.

I haven't tracked my 09 4S yet but i have the SuperSports on too.

I am thinking on trying the RS3s or the Neova D08s next time around since epsecially they Neovas are much cheaper and i have seen other 997s running them with great success. Plus they are symmetrical so you can change them inside out in order to get some more miles out of them.

CORSASCHNELL

I just got Michelin Super Sports last week. Initial impression, nice sticky tires and reasonably quiet, but not enough time on them to report anything more meaningful.

stronbl

IMHO either PS2 or SS are good for all round use (can't comment on your other tires choices). I track a 2010 C4S quite a bit and have used both. I actually like the PS2 better and think it has better life and seems to get a bit more sticky once at operating temp. But SS is just so much more cost effective and little difference. You'll wear either out at 10 track days a year once you let the 4S roll. And another advantage of the 4S - you can replace all 4 at the same time.

vern1

Yoko Evo's. One third the price and good performance

CORSASCHNELL

BTW, a few people had reported that Michelin SS tires last only 1-2 track days on the TireRack website. Good for street use but not so for track use.

Hatzenbach

Hmmmmmmm at TireRack 4 Yoko Evos are in total $10 cheaper than 4 Michelin SS

Hatzenbach

Thanks, interesting ....

Alan C.

Two 3 day DE's and 8000 miles on my MPSS with the GTS. I also used them on my 09 CS2. Hard to be beat them in the rain.

scb997

I haven't done any track days, but I autocross. I'm up to 87k miles on an 09 C4S. I've been through 2 sets of PS2s and I'm on my second set of PSSs. The PS2s lasted about 18k miles and the first set of PSSs lasted about 23k miles.

In general, I find the PSSs give me a little better grip on autocross courses, are a little quieter, last noticeably longer, and are less expensive. I do think that their rolling resistance is a little higher. The car is my daily driver - it has Sottozeros on it now. With either the PS2s or Sottozeros, I average (over months) 23 mpg and with the PSSs, I see 22 mpg. So, for me, they're a no-brainer - I love the PSSs. But, I'm thinking that for a manufacturer trying to post EPA numbers, they would like them less.

Scott

vern1

Hmmmmmm, interesting. I will have to check that out. The yokos were always a lot cheaper than any of the Michelins
Thanks

sjfehr

Dunlop ZII and BF Goodrich Rivals are the tires to have right now. Both are supposed to be fantastic for the track and will give you VERY close to r-comp performance. They JUST came out and are still a bit limited in size availability, though. Bridgestone RE12 should be out soon, too; no word yet on benchmarks but if it's better than the RE11, it'll probably be up there with the ZII and Rival.

kouzman

The BFGs have an amazing looking tread! Wow! But no sizes yet for us.

The Dunlops are symmetrical right? This could help to get some more miles out of them...

I think after my MSS I will try the Neovas D08. I have seen great results with them in the dry.

rotesAuto

another fan for Michelin PS3's........have them on all my cars