Identifying an oil burning 997.2
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I'm looking for a 997.2 C2S and I'm a little paranoid about getting a great low mile car that someone's unloading because it's one of the (relatively rare) cars that burn oil. Obviously even a certified car wouldn't be of much help, since Porsche doesn't think it's a problem. Is there any way to tell if a car is using too much oil without driving it 1,000 miles?
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Hi KLS,
Welcome to Rennlist! Why do you care if your car burns a little oil? If you do some searching on this site, you'll find that many Porsches do this - with no ill effects. You just add some oil as needed and drive on! No big whoop...
Welcome to Rennlist! Why do you care if your car burns a little oil? If you do some searching on this site, you'll find that many Porsches do this - with no ill effects. You just add some oil as needed and drive on! No big whoop...
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I know - but being old, I associate an oil burner with a worn engine. Given a choice, I'd rather not have it use much.
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these cars consume oil from what I understand.....my 07 had 30K miles when I brought it home.......
will probably need some soon, also depends on many things.....
I just put a Q in my AMG, which are also known to be oil drinkers.....
just the nature of the beast I guess........good luck
will probably need some soon, also depends on many things.....
I just put a Q in my AMG, which are also known to be oil drinkers.....
just the nature of the beast I guess........good luck
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I have about 2k miles on my most recent oil change and haven't added any oil yet. The last 5k oil change I had to add about 1/2 quart at 4k miles. My car burns very little oil and I drive it hard. Mobil 1.
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I change my oil every 3K miles. No oil add required so far. I have to count my car the odd one in the lot with 54K miles on the clock. Perhaps if I left the same oil in for 12K miles like Porsche recommends then I'd notice the need to add oil... but I'm old school about maintenance plus I only put 5-6K miles on her per year. An oil change every 3-4 months is typical for all my vehicles.
One thing you should avoid is a car with smoke coming out of the driver side tailpipe. That's a potential indicator of a scored cylinder. The #4 cylinder in bank #2 gets the lease effective cooling and is the typical one affected if a car is abused... for example, not warmed up to operating temp before driven hard. A scored cylinder will leak oil and that is why you'll only notice smoke coming from the driver side pipes on start-up. BTW, bank #2 is actually on the passenger side but the exhaust pipes crossover so it's tailpipes come out on the driver side. GL with the search for a C2S... that's a fine machine to operate on the road.
One thing you should avoid is a car with smoke coming out of the driver side tailpipe. That's a potential indicator of a scored cylinder. The #4 cylinder in bank #2 gets the lease effective cooling and is the typical one affected if a car is abused... for example, not warmed up to operating temp before driven hard. A scored cylinder will leak oil and that is why you'll only notice smoke coming from the driver side pipes on start-up. BTW, bank #2 is actually on the passenger side but the exhaust pipes crossover so it's tailpipes come out on the driver side. GL with the search for a C2S... that's a fine machine to operate on the road.
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According to porsche, the car can burn 1 quart of oil in something like 365 miles and be completely within spec to them.
If you think thats "no big whoop", then you have much lower standards of acceptability than I do.
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I guess that depends on your definition of a "little oil" is.
According to porsche, the car can burn 1 quart of oil in something like 365 miles and be completely within spec to them.
If you think thats "no big whoop", then you have much lower standards of acceptability than I do.
According to porsche, the car can burn 1 quart of oil in something like 365 miles and be completely within spec to them.
If you think thats "no big whoop", then you have much lower standards of acceptability than I do.
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Having only had my 997.1 for a short time, but having done a great deal of research prior to making my purchase, it is apparent to me that 911 ownership is a very involved, ongoing process... whether that means for the owner personally, or in a symbiotic owner/shop relationship. Upon returning from my first long drive, (approximately 1,000 miles from Long Beach to Modesto, San Francisco and back, with some putting around the city), I checked the oil and found that my particular car uses 1/2 qt per 1,000. It is a high performance vehicle with a precision motor that has very tight tolerances. I personally like the level of involvement required to own and operate this car. I like being in tune with my car. I have had vehicles with which my involvement was minimal, both in the process of driving, as well as maintenance. I have to say that I much prefer the connection I have with this car over any car I have owned previously. There is no way to know from one 911 to another, just which one will use oil, and which one won't. For me, in the grand scheme, it is a small trade-off for the pleasure I receive.
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Having only had my 997.1 for a short time, but having done a great deal of research prior to making my purchase, it is apparent to me that 911 ownership is a very involved, ongoing process... whether that means for the owner personally, or in a symbiotic owner/shop relationship. Upon returning from my first long drive, (approximately 1,000 miles from Long Beach to Modesto, San Francisco and back, with some putting around the city), I checked the oil and found that my particular car uses 1/2 qt per 1,000. It is a high performance vehicle with a precision motor that has very tight tolerances. I personally like the level of involvement required to own and operate this car. I like being in tune with my car. I have had vehicles with which my involvement was minimal, both in the process of driving, as well as maintenance. I have to say that I much prefer the connection I have with this car over any car I have owned previously. There is no way to know from one 911 to another, just which one will use oil, and which one won't. For me, in the grand scheme, it is a small trade-off for the pleasure I receive.
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I agree - I actually look forward to changing my oil, and I am going to worry a bit less about it based on the responses here. My biggest concern is that if I get one that burns oil badly, I'll have it forever because I'm not going to lie about it, and telling someone it burns a quart every 500-1000 miles is likely to be a deal breaker. I think the lesson may be to be sure I get one I can live with for the foreseeable future.
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I'm like you guys. I enjoy working on the car. I did the 3rd radiator, wheeled and polished, short shifter kit, brake bleed and a couple oil changes this year and enjoyed every minute.
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My 09 CS used about .5 qt per 2000 mi. At 10,000 mi. my GTS hasn't used any.
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I personally think that Oil consumption may vary due to driving in sport + sports plus modes rather than D for drive. I have PDK and I usually drive it in Sport mode.