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Old 08-17-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yemenmocha
I agree that's not a good discount.

The car's age means it already has a lot of depreciation in it, and the worst of the depreciation are the first couple of years.

Even worse is the fact that it is "new" but has 100+ miles. How many test drives has this car experienced? How many of those times involved the car at high revs without the proper break-in period?

Has the car been a loaner car for the dealer?


Whether by design or not, the car was in effect a demo. Assuming 10 miles per test drive, it's safe to assume that this car has been driven hard on 10 occassions . Of course you can get an over rev report to rule out any range 3 or higher ignitions.
Old 08-17-2012, 02:06 PM
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I agree... 100+ miles on a new dealer car makes me wonder... how does the DME report look? BTW, does it have full leather... that would be a negative for me personally.
Old 08-17-2012, 02:41 PM
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You can't even buy a used, titled in someone elses name, with a few miles 2011 911S for the $75K that people keep mentioning as a starting point.

As far as DI goes and the many documented carbon build up problems, they are limited to a few specific brands of vehicles and is related to how they set the engine up. There are not really enough DI Porsches with any miles on them to know if the Porsche product will be plauged or not.
Old 08-17-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Suns_PSD
You can't even buy a used, titled in someone elses name, with a few miles 2011 911S for the $75K that people keep mentioning as a starting point.
That's my experience in the Bay Area. Location matters. dave
Old 08-17-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC_DS1
I agree... 100+ miles on a new dealer car makes me wonder... how does the DME report look? BTW, does it have full leather... that would be a negative for me personally.
There's a link to the car on the prior page. I haven't talked to the Dealer, so I dont't have a DME report. Since it's not a CPO, I would doubt that they would have one. I expect they would run one for a serious buyer.
Old 08-17-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dasams
That's my experience in the Bay Area. Location matters. dave
I think if I offered $75K, they would laugh. My guess is that $85K would be as low as they would go, and I'm not sure they would even go that low.
Old 08-17-2012, 07:04 PM
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You never know what number they will accept. End of month motivations help. I would start at $78K and settle on $82K.
Old 08-17-2012, 07:17 PM
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So they're listing it as used. Sure it's never been titled? As far as the listing price going up - perhaps they made an error in the listing. After all, they seem to be prone to making those kinds of errors...
Old 08-17-2012, 07:29 PM
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Just as a point of reference I bought a 2012 997.2 S Cab at the end of June that was new too. It had a sticker of $110,775 and I bought if for $88k. Not that it matters all that much but the car had 17 miles on the clock. Go see the dealer on the last day of the month with cash in hand. Ideally a half hour before closing time.
Old 08-17-2012, 07:59 PM
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I've seen used cars with way more miles going for more than 80k. I guess it doesnt hurt to try, but I see this as a car that will sell for about 85k.
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Originally Posted by wanderingwheelz
Just as a point of reference I bought a 2012 997.2 S Cab at the end of June that was new too. It had a sticker of $110,775 and I bought if for $88k.
Is it just me or is this one hell of a deal? I don't think i would ever find a deal like that in South Florida.
Old 08-18-2012, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ufischer
Is it just me or is this one hell of a deal? I don't think i would ever find a deal like that in South Florida.
Timing is everything. With the Labor Day weekend and end of the month coming up, now might just be a good time to make a deal. Here is an example of a deal on a 2011 997 4S Cab.

http://www.circleporsche.com/new/Por...b14ced0f6c.htm
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Originally Posted by shine
Timing is everything. With the Labor Day weekend and end of the month coming up, now might just be a good time to make a deal. Here is an example of a deal on a 2011 997 4S Cab.

http://www.circleporsche.com/new/Por...b14ced0f6c.htm
This deal is a good example of the devil is in the details. It turns out that that the warranty on this car was punched in March 2011 and that it is a demo with around $15K miles. So although it's never been tittled, it still is in effect a used car.



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