Aerokitted

I've heard the AWE pipes on a 997S. Based on that sound and build quality alone, I'd never buy an AWE product.

kdurg

^^ interesting comment. what exactly is there not to like ? i'm researching sport cats at the moment and believe the cross over design is better suited than an x-pipe format.

BC-997

Your opinions seem to come from a somewhat less informed state of mind - sorry.But I can see how believing this would make you feel better about your Gundo Hack.

Speed

Me too.

vern1

Then pls do tell us what performance advantages (or for that matter any advantages) a PSE system has over a simple gundo mod or why we would need to feel better about it? Ans pls dont tell us an on/off switch

JonasJ

I think a switch is big

vern1

True. It is worth that extra $2500 for sure.....

BC-997

I never said there was a performance advantage. What I said was PSE is not the same thing as a Gundo Hack as the poster surmised

vern1

Then why the condescending "believing this would make you feel better" statement?

BC-997

Sorry Vern. Have you read the entire thread? Please see #48. My comment was in response to that post specifically. You won't find a single post from me, condescending or otherwise, praising PSE for anything other than sound. The hack, as it's called, removes the centre muffler and reconnects the system. PSE is not like a gundo hack.

The condescending tone you may have picked up on was in response to that statement; that we could save thousands on the cost of PSE by doing a gundo hack.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Greg

vern1

I have read the entire thread and in fact you would have seen that i have quite a few posts in it if you had. The hack does not remove the center muffler. It is simply a crossover pipe welded between the inlet and outlet pipes on the muffler. My point (and others) is that you CAN in fact save thousands by just doing the gundo. Same sound as the PSE, one tenth the cost. Previous posters seem to intimate that there is something wrong with the gundo but no one can seem to point out what that is

BC-997

Oh my....
Sorry to have offended you or anyone on this. I was referring to the Shark Werks by-pass and on the 997.2 is is as I've discribed. And no, sorry, but it doesnt sound the same as PSE with or without the hack. Anyway, this is all a matter of preference. I'm glad everyone who has done the hack like how their 911 sounds.
All the best,
Greg

vern1

Greg, I am not offended. As I have said before i just prefer people to say what they mean, not throw out vague innuendos that soemething is wrong with the mod but never back it up with details (previous posters not you)

However I am not following you. On a 997.1 the PSE and gundo sound virtually the same. You would never do both though.

So I am not sure what you mean by "it doesnt sound the same as PSE with or without the hack"? You would do PSE or gundo, not both, regardless of whether you have the bypass or not

Regards

NC 997

I've ridden in PTParks' car.. to me the sound is perfect. No 'drone' at highway speeds, not much louder than stock at idle, but when he pushes the 'go pedal', the sound coming from the back of the car is music.

I don't know how much difference adding the crossover pipe makes, rather than just doing the hack, but for a guy who wants the car to sound 'right', without spending thousands, I can confirm that the 'hack' is a viable alternative.

I plan to make similar mods to my car.

There, I've said it.

vern1

Good for you, enjoy it, its a great sound for little $$. ignore the Porsche snobs who say "if it aint porsche its shiite"