Installed the Sharkwerks Pipes which replaces the 997.2 center muffler
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Haha too funny! Yesterday Dan and I were wearing one. Joan the day before...
Haha thanks
We tried a complete muffler bypass on day 2 of owning the PDK car but the resonance darn-right almost killed me! This will be MUCH more mild
If you want a side set up you can always add a cargraphic or tubi exhaust. I've got videos of both somewhere>>
Hehe thanks F4 plt. That word has gotten used before I'm sure
I also want to give a shout out to "Sharky" Mine should be arriving today! I will post up some clips once installed. I dropped the center last night in preparation and decided to fire it up. I'm now thinking I may want some sort of bypass to really wake up the neighbors from time to time. This thing sounds like a pissed off cup car! I will say getting to the top bolt on the driverside flange was a real PITA on my PSE equipped car.
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A buddy from NC was visiting last weekend and took my 09 C2S for a ride and was blown away at the sound. He has the same car, just a different color, so he knows what stock sounds like. I see a Sharky bypass in his future
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been hearing about low end torque loss on these bypasses. im sure the sound is terrific and since the saying goes quieter means more restricitons, the bypass has less of it. however we do know certain amount of restriction is needed for low end torque...what is the feel of the sharwerks bypass. maybe putting on earplugs and feeling the car would give a good gauge of the change
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Been hearing from where - Telemetry data, dyno runs? I've had no low-end torque loss in fact I got a nice little bump in performance on the track (Traqmate data). We're just talking about replacing the 3rd muffler (center) with the X pipes, not actually removing "the mufflers".
It's not a night-and-day noise maker. This is a relatively subtle change as the 2 side mufflers remain in tact, as well as the stock cats.
It's not a night-and-day noise maker. This is a relatively subtle change as the 2 side mufflers remain in tact, as well as the stock cats.
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been hearing about low end torque loss on these bypasses. im sure the sound is terrific and since the saying goes quieter means more restricitons, the bypass has less of it. however we do know certain amount of restriction is needed for low end torque...what is the feel of the sharwerks bypass. maybe putting on earplugs and feeling the car would give a good gauge of the change
997.1s also suffer from low end tq loss with a bypass since they don't use any of the two mufflers. The 997.2 has three and with ours you still use the two side ones. I believe there are other designs that other companies had made/sold and stated that with an X/connection there was a slight loss. We kept our pipes independent just like the factory center and didn't induce any restriction that way. We simply made the flow straighter vs the u-bends.
Here's an example dyno:
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thanks alex. with your good following here, no reason to doubt your honesty in answering the query. now i just have to find a way to get those pipes to me..all the way here in southeast asia. which gives me an idea...will pm you alex.
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As far as southeast asia we actually ship our parts all over and have sent a few to Singapore, Hong Kong etc.. before. I'll check the PM...
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I installed the by pass on my '09 C2S about 2.5 years ago and it has been great from day one and 23,500 miles later. Still looks like new. Never any drone in the cockpit and as said, great sound. For those that have not tried it, it takes about an hour to take the OEM muffler off and install the by pass pipes. I did it with the car on the ground. Great improvement
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I installed the Sharkwerks by-pass pipes today to replace the center muffler. The car sounds MUCH better. The exhaust is louder and has a deeper, more guttural sound to it. Sorry no sound clips. They are too inconsistent and subjective anyway.
Thanks to Sharky (Alex) for getting these to me BEFORE I picked up the car.
Alex was very helpful :
Thanks to Sharky (Alex) for getting these to me BEFORE I picked up the car.
Alex was very helpful :
Nothing but good things to say about him and his group.
We also have center muffler bypass, but it makes little difference to my ear.
Surprisingly little IMO.
We are going to have Darin @ FD Motorosports work his magic on the stock muffler cans to improve the tone and increase the Db level
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He sells primarily to the 993 market, but will also do "modern cars"
http://www.fdmotorsports.net/index_files/Page1456.htm
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Just a quick update. I installed the cross pipe last Wednesday and really like the enhancement in sound. It now has a nice deep raspy burble when the PSE is active. When not active it sounds like it did with the PSE active before the swap. I've already received complements on the sound from a couple individuals. I spent a good hour last weekend just cruising around and did my best to find every possible underpass just so I could let it go and hear it echo off the walls. What a melodious sound
I can't say that I feel any real difference in performance but it also doesn't feel as if I lost any. If anything it may pull a bit harder around 5K but that also could just be mental. Overall I highly recommend it and also dealing with Sharkwerks. They are top notch! Oh and the tee shirt and shark ROCK! Thanks again Alex.
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Just a quick update. I installed the cross pipe last Wednesday and really like the enhancement in sound. It now has a nice deep raspy burble when the PSE is active. When not active it sounds like it did with the PSE active before the swap. I've already received complements on the sound from a couple individuals. I spent a good hour last weekend just cruising around and did my best to find every possible underpass just so I could let it go and hear it echo off the walls. What a melodious sound
I can't say that I feel any real difference in performance but it also doesn't feel as if I lost any. If anything it may pull a bit harder around 5K but that also could just be mental. Overall I highly recommend it and also dealing with Sharkwerks. They are top notch! Oh and the tee shirt and shark ROCK! Thanks again Alex.
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Glad you like the shark heh!
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Sharky is definitley a great guy to deal with.
Nothing but good things to say about him and his group.
We also have center muffler bypass, but it makes little difference to my ear.
Surprisingly little IMO.
We are going to have Darin @ FD Motorosports work his magic on the stock muffler cans to improve the tone and increase the Db level![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
He sells primarily to the 993 market, but will also do "modern cars"
http://www.fdmotorsports.net/index_files/Page1456.htm
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Nothing but good things to say about him and his group.
We also have center muffler bypass, but it makes little difference to my ear.
Surprisingly little IMO.
We are going to have Darin @ FD Motorosports work his magic on the stock muffler cans to improve the tone and increase the Db level
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
He sells primarily to the 993 market, but will also do "modern cars"
http://www.fdmotorsports.net/index_files/Page1456.htm
Craig
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That would be me. The sound is soooo much better w/ the bypass. I second what everyone else has said about it - it just sounds much more like what you'd expect a Carrera so sound like. It's probably too soon to tell, however, no one has complimented me on the sound b/c they get hung up on the color. Great experience, great product, highly recommend. Thanks!