jdthor

I am going to drive a new Carrera S this morning. The owner of the dealership is claiming it is a 2012, but I expect it to be the 997.2. The car with options lists for 100K plus some change. I have never driven a Carrera or CS, or any Porsche other than the Cayman base model I now own.

I "think" I can get it in the low 80's, probably around 82,000. The owner wants my 2011 Cayman in trade, which is where I expect most of the profit is gonna be for the dealer.

So let's say I drive the car and like it and offer the dealer $82,000.00 today, no trade, and he agrees. Good price?

GSIRM3

There are 2012 997.2 cars available. I have a 2012 GTS.

buckwheat987

Its a great price for an 2012 but I doubt you can get it.

Good luck nonetheless.

spourreza

+1 - it will never happen. FYI, I went from a Cayman to a 911. Insane difference. Would never go back.

KBS911

Not going to happen, low 80's for a 100K plus car. Should be able to get 10-12% off though. Good luck!

Mbiondo

go for it! I got 20k off my 2010 C4S because it was late in that model year. Stick to your guns, and I really think you can get it.

Tcc1999

Check the Build date on the inside driver's door. My dealer told me that he thought anything after the May builds were branded 2012 - but this was for the GTS and he said "he thought". If, however, you do get the build month I think you can do a simple bit of research and find out if it was one of the last 2011's or one of the first 2012's. This might help in your negotiations.

Best of luck

gasongasoff

For a 2012 997-2 (yes, they arrived a few months ago, and you can verify on the MSRP sticker), you'd be very lucky to get 10-12% off, and perhaps only if you "take a hit" on your tradein.

Offering low 80's on a brand new 2012 997-2 would probably be considered insulting. But do let us know how it goes.

JLHendrix

I just purchased a new 2011 C2. I got what I considered an incredibly good deal due in large measure to the fact that the dealer owed me for selling me a lemon certified car with a bad transmission.
I will be really surprised if you get anywhere near 10% off but will be interested to hear how it goes.

GSIRM3

The May build GTS were 2012. I have a 2012 GTS that was a May 2011 build. My dealer received a 2012 C2S a couple weeks before my car arrived, so I guess all 997 cars built in May were 2012 cars, but can't he just look at the window sticker?.

TAI2

Go for it but be prepared to buy the car for $85 which could be a fair deal (if it is a $100K optioned car).

utkinpol

one of the best responses ever I got was from local herb chambers dealership - 'we sell for stcker prices only, we cannot negotiate selling prices as they all are set in the computer'.

i left him my best regards for his computer and ceased any business with herb chambers in MA. such an idiots...

jdthor

I drove the car. Well, not the car I thought I was going to drive, its gone. But I really liked the one I drove. This car is sticker low 100's and I now believe that if I get serious with the dealer I might get it for low 90's, maybe a little better. Will see what develops in the next few days.

Thanks to those that posted and to the pm's.

Now a question to the (former) Cayman owners that moved up to the Carrera. What justified the 40K upgrade?

spourreza

Well, it's easy. Raced all the cars at the Porsche World Tour. Spiders, Cayman R and various 911's. In my view, the ride of the 911 is totally superior. Had a lot more fun! Maybe it's the size, torque, DFI, width, technology, blah blah. I was sold and traded in a week later. No knock at the Boxter/cayman. They are awesome cars but the 911 is in a different league.

jdthor

I agree that it was a fun car to drive. But the Cayman is a fun car to drive. I realize that they are two different types of cars, and should "feel" different to drive, which they do.

I am an occasional driver, not a track guy, and when I do drive I usually spend most of my time going back and forth on the interstate. About 500 or 600 miles per month, max.

For reasons I can't explain I really like the look of this particular Carrera. This one is silver with black interior, not especially exotic, but nice in any event. The Cayman is exotic, black over saddle interior, and attracts lots of attention in the rural area where I live and work.

I can afford the car; I am having trouble reconciling the difference in cost, probably close to 40K, should I trade. Like I said, I had a lot of fun during the 45 minute test drive, I just don't know if I had $40,000 worth of fun.